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Blackrock Foundry - No Multistrike Items

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Hey,

I'm wondering if Frostmage will be useless with 6.1, due to the fact that there're nearly no items with Multistrike on them coming.

 

Will Fire or Arcane take the lead?

 

I'd like to play fire again but I guess Frost is still stronger if you have about ~660 itemlvl, isn't it?

 

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Hey,

 

they are a few multistrike items on blackrock foundry :

 

-Waist

-offhand

-feet,

-back

-and of course the blackhand trinket.

 

Plus the arcano shatter legs and robes give you also nice multistrike bonuses :

 

http://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=minle=680;cr=152;crs=8;crv=0

The rest, you an easily find on highmaul, heroic or mythic, depending of the level you are playing. Highmaul will become easier since people will become more powerful thanks to the blackrock foundry normal/heroic gear, so maybe mythic will be doable by your guild.

Short subjective answer, i think you will easily be able to make a decent frost gear if you really want to keep that spec. Whatever you can't find on highmaul will be on the foundry and vice versa. You should keep the spec you are the most confortable with, but if uou want to switch, it will also be rather easy.

 

If you are a top tier guild that want to get the first down of your server,  i guess maybe the answer is different, but i don't play myself at that level. I play arcane since the beginning of highmaul, and even i can't find mastery gear (and especially trinkets) there, i am still very happy with the spec :)

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Yes, these are the items I wound as well.

Compared to Highmaul, I'll probably change my feet and my back and if I'll come that far the trinket too. I've got the craftet waist and without a mainhand I guess the staff from Tectus will be stronger.

 

I'm clear in HC and got 663 itemlvl but there"re only few guilds on my server doing Myhic (my guild is 6/7 nhc but friends>progress ;) ).

 

Usually I played Fire, because it was fun, buy due to the crap dmgoutput I switched to Frost for Highmaul. So maybe I'll be able to play fire again with Foundry gear and the buff that's coming with 6.1 for Firemages :)

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Certain items--most notably the obsidian choker from twins--from highmaul will still be relevant to frost in blackrock. If a piece of gear has your two best stats on it but is 10 or less item levels lower than a new piece of gear that does not have ANY desirable stats, you can assume that the gain in intellect is not worth dropping the secondary stats. However, if you have a 15 ilvl upgrade in a piece of gear, it will be worth the sacrifice.

One very important note: higher ilvl weapons are always an upgrade due to the increased int and raw spellpower.

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Oh anf of course, i forgot that crafting can fill some of the slots where you can't find good drop in raid.

So if you are in the friends>progress mood, i think you can definitly stick to the spec that you prefer. Keep also in mind that even if arcane seems to be superior on paper, whenever you enter a fight requiring a lot of movement, we lose a ton of dps (Tectus/twins are good examples).

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There is not really a lack of Multistrike, iirc there were 80% of items with at least MS on them. The differance is that there are now Crit and Mastery pieces meaning Fire and Arcane get ahead. It's not the lakc of gear for frost, but the better optimization on certain pieces for Fire and Arcane

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Yes, that's what I ment Berlinia. The items from the Foundry are optimized for Fire/Arcane and not for Frost. So in the beginning of the coming content Frostmages have to keep their gear from Highmaul or switch to one of the other specs to use the new items, I guess.

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With the changes to haste, the lineup of items dropped in Blackrock actually isn't too bad. One thing that concerns me is a 15% nerf to frost's mirror images.

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With the changes to haste, the lineup of items dropped in Blackrock actually isn't too bad. One thing that concerns me is a 15% nerf to frost's mirror images.

 

What changes of haste are you talking about? I thing I haven't read about that yet. But the 15% mirror images nerf will be quite bad I think... But I haven't compared them to the other specs.

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1% haste is now gained every 90 haste instead of 100, which makes raw haste on gear 11.1% stronger. Our stat priority for haste has changed a lot.

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Oh, wow... I'm really excited for 6.1!!

 

We'll see what changes will be implemented and how they develope. Thanks Xaskepios ;)

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Well this BiS list is only consisted of blacrock mythic warforged items, i don't think it is really relevant for 99.9% of the players here :)

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It is still relevant for the difficulity you raid :) if you only raid normal, just swap those items to normal ilvl and so on..

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thats not completly true, since a HM HC item e.g. the Head with Mastery/Multi would be way better then the Head with crit/vers on normal BF, its even very similar DPS-wise to the HC Head of BF.

 

So its a little more complicated then just swapping the Difficulty

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Sure, but the HC BF item will be better than the HC HM item. Thats what im trying to say. 15 ilvls will almost always be an upgrade regardless of the stats.

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Comparing the two raids in the safe difficulty is irrelevant.

 

Of course the BF loots are far stronger for the same difficulty, but a guild struggling on a certain difficulty in highmaul won't most likely be able to tackle the foundry at the same difficulty.

 

Let's make a BiS item list without including the BF MM difficulty (so with HM mythic and BF HM), and i am pretty sure there will be a mix of the two instances.

 

But this is also an ideal case, some guilds won't be able to raid HM MM difficulty because their roster is too small. Well, just try to grab whatever you can.

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