How much haste do I need when I get 2P T18/ 4P T18??

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So reading your guide it stated to start putting haste slightly above mastery, my question is how much?? Is there a breaking point before I should stop or just keep stacking it with mastery?

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If you got your 4P bonus Haste becomes better than Mastery. So stack as much as possible.

The only reason Haste overtakes Mastery is cause of the buff you get from the 4P.


The higher your Haste is, the more AB you can cast so you get more missileprocs you can use to get the 4P bonus.

Anyway as much items you can get should have Haste&Mastery on them.

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Yes, that's what i'm trying to do is get haste and mastery gear,thats kinda been that way the whole expac, i'm asking that I currently have 2P normal T18 and switched my Encht/Gems to hate and have been looking for higher Haste over mastery items. I'm sitting at 25.5 % haste (Raid Buffed) and 68.something Mastery (raid buffed) so i'm just wondering do I stop or keep going, since that's what the guide said to do?


Also this will help me find a replacement to my Heroic BRF staff as my guild is not quite to Archmonde yet for that staff (plus i'm a staff whore and rather have staffs over MH/OH items)or even Mannaroth for the off hand.

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Haste only becomes stronger than Mastery when you got the 4P. With just 2P, Mastery is the stronger choise and should be enchanted on your gear.
As soon as you get the 4P get as much Haste as you can. There is no cap, it is just slightly stronger than Mastery.

Well the Archimonde staff is really nice. If you got space for a crafted item you should get one. Or just an empowered staff with Haste and Mastery for aspexiscrystals.

But if you can get a MH+OH with ~ +15-20 Itemlvl, you should take them and don't mind the stats. Int and spellpower is still the strongest stat.

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Haste only becomes stronger than Mastery when you got the 2P.


I'm guessing you meant to say 4P??

Thanks for the advice

Edited by Tigersharrk

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