TvP: Quick Cyclone All-in with a Proxied Second Factory (Terran vs Protoss)
Table of Contents
Introduction
In modern day Terran vs Protoss, the Terran players find themselves with a lot more options than they had in the past when it comes to openings and ways in which to take advantage of the game from an early stage. Some would argue it is more important now than ever before that this is the case, due to the difficulty of TvP in the mid game and hence the late game as well. Sometimes you just need to pick up that cheeky win and that is exactly what this build is designed to do.
By adding a quick second Factory in a proxy location it is
possible to pump out a dangerous number of
Cyclones very quickly,
while still looking like a regular Terran opening, and to find yourself taking
a fast early advantage or win. This is a build which needs to do damage early,
otherwise you will be behind (even though you do take an early expansion).
Check out this cheeky & cheesy build which a lot of the pro Terran players such
as uThermal, SpeCial and others have been mixing into their series.
Build Order
As with all of our build orders, constant worker production is assumed unless mentioned otherwise and so all builds are based on supply count timings. Rough in-game timer points have been added at points of the build.
- 14 — Build
Supply Depot as a part of wall.
- 16 — Build
Barracks.
- 16 — Build
Refinery.
- 17 —
SCV goes across the map in a way which will avoid a
Probe scout, so it can stay hidden to proxy later. Ideally you would like to confirm there is an expansion – which can be done without showing the SCV due to the lack of vision on a building
Nexus - you can approach the natural expansion from 1:30 onwards and confirm the expanse before putting the SCV in a hidden position where you will place the proxy later in the build.
- 19 — Upgrade
Command Center to
Orbital Command.
- 19 — Recruit
Marine.
- 20 — Build
Command Center.
- 20 — Build
Reactor on the
Barracks.
- 21 — Build
Supply Depot.
- 22 — Build
Factory.
- 23 — Build
Refinery.
- 23 — As the
Reactor completes start constant
Marine production.
- 28 — Build
Factory #2 with the
SCV you have hidden across the map.
- 28 — Upgrade to
Orbital Command on the natural base.
- 29 —
Cyclone production begins. Prioritize Cyclone production over
Marine and
SCV production. The important part of this build is having a successful attack which hits as soon as possible.
- At this stage the game should be around 3:30 in the game, with your
second
Factory finished and starting to produce
Cyclones - you should have 7
Marines and 24
SCVs with your first Cyclone about to finish.
- 41 — Build
Supply Depot on the natural base.
- Continue to produce
Cyclones,
Marines, and
SCVs as you begin your attack. Your attack should be leaving around when your first Cyclone is ready in order to sync it with the first Cyclone from the proxy coming out and being able to attack into the natural. The idea is to continue being aggressive to either win the game or do close-to-game-ending damage, but if you do need to transition, you can move into extra
Barracks and into a more regular mid-game set-up.
Execution of the Build
Time to go into some specifics of how this build works and how to be
successful with it. Obviously one of the big things is stopping it from being
scouted, which is why it is important to build the proxy Factory
in a position where it is not going to be seen, while also being close enough
to reinforce quickly with additional
Cyclones as they are ready.
The ideal position is somewhere just outside of where the third base will
usually be, while also avoiding flight paths from your opponent's main base to
your own so that it is not seen by an
Oracle opening. If you are
scouted, you can continue to attempt the attack. (Depending on when it is scouted,
it may be better to just cancel the Factory and to go into a
Starport
at home and go into a different follow-up.)
The build is going to work best against a Stargate or a
Twilight Council opening as a
Robotics Facility
early on will give the Protoss player access to
Immortal
production which is going to shut down the attack very quickly. Against
the other options you are generally going to be hitting before something like
a
Blink upgrade is completed or a defensive air unit comes out.
Your biggest issue in most attacks is going to be defensive
Shield Batterys - so these should be the first target because with
two Cyclones and the
Marines they will go down extremeley quickly
when you target them down. If you cannot get close enough, you will have to
settle for just draining their energy, but this takes a lot longer.
Against Stargate you may have to hang back for a while to
defend the first
Oracle, although as soon as you push it back with
your
Cyclone, you should be good to go, as the Oracle will not have
the energy to attack again for a long time. If they do decide to stay aggressive
with the Oracle, it simply means there is even less for them to defend with at home.
(Oracles are surprisingly useful against Cyclones.) When attacking, your priorities
should be to kite away from the Oracles with the Cyclones and target firing with
the Marines. A
Void Ray can be a nice touch, but the issue with this
unit is that it is super kite-able. Micro well against a Stargate opening and you
will in general have a lot of success with this build.
Against Twilight Council openers your biggest fear is
Blink - though it will not be ready for your first attack. In these
scenarios the Protoss player will be looking to buy time by kiting back and allowing
the
Nexus on the natural to tank some damage. By the time Blink is
finished the game should be mostly decided - either you have broken through and won
or your opponent has held you off, at which point with Blink you have no hope of
continuing to trade well. The best idea is to back away at this stage if possible and
to try and macro out of it.
The Cyclones are always going to be the key unit of this build and
the more you get out of them the more success you are likely going to have.
Make sure to consistently rally new Cyclones across the map and try to use the
Marines to protect them. You can even pull 3-4
SCVs with
the push to repair the Cyclones during the attack which can sometimes make all the
difference in the first all-or-nothing push forwards.
In some scenarios the Protoss may try and give up their Natural Expansion. At
this point you have a strong economic advantage because you still expanded and you
did not cut SCVs too heavily (only to prioritize unit production).
If you picked off some units already you will have the chance to possibly move
up the ramp and end the game, otherwise you can set up a hard contain on the
bottom of the ramp and just delay them from retaking their natural expansion
for as long as possible. Just keep in mind the ways you can lose
(
Dark Templar,
Warp Prism plays or something
similar). Do not overstay your welcome; at some point it is better to head home
and let them have the base rather than losing your army. As with most builds,
a lot of this is intuition which comes with playing the build a lot and
experiencing different scenarios with differing levels of success.
Conclusion
This is a variation of a fairly popular Terran cheese against Protoss which
can allow you to take a quick win or a heavy early advantage if it goes well,
however, it is heavily committed and so if you do not do any damage, you will find
yourself in a difficult position to return to the game from. This is not the
sort of build you use while thinking of macroing later in the game as the first
attack can determine the victor there and then. It is better used on smaller
maps for reinforcement distance from the Factory which is at
home, but can be used on larger maps to catch your opponent off guard as it will
be more unexpected.
The power of this build lies in the Cyclones and the insane
power they have in the early stages of the game, especially if you are able to get
multiple of them at your opponent's base quickly. An underprepared opponent will
straight up die and with good control you can manipulate the situation into your favor.
Enjoy adding this build to your arsenal in TvP and good luck on the ladder!
Changelog
- 26 Mar. 2018: Another TvP build order, this time looking at an aggressive all-in which focuses on the usage of Cyclones.
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