Fenodoree

Mage in 7.1.5 What spect to roll?

6 posts in this topic

Hi everyone. I've a question, What spect should we roll for 7.1.5?

So patch notes for 7.1.5 (November the 29th) are out.

And I have 2 things to remark

1.Strong buff to Arcane Mana cost for Arcane Blast has been reduced from 125% to 60% per Arcane Charge, since they are mana dependent. This does not apply It Was a tooltip bug.

2.Almost all fire skills were buffed in damage, Fireball,Flame Blast, PyroBlast, Scorch, FlameStrike, CinderStorm,Meteor,Conflag and Phoenix's Flames. BUT Critical Mass % was reduced from 15% to 10% and Pyretic Incantation was nerfed from 5% per stack  to 2% per stack = 15%  less damage from consecutive Critical Strikes.

I haven't done the math yet, but since Arcane has gotten a lot of buffs lately, and Fire is getting "balanced" (Since i've no idea how the patch will afect fire dps), and Frost Topping dps in rankings, and with no significant buffs or nerfs in the patch notes i suppose they will stay in tops.

So if anyone would be so kind to enlighten me what spect you guys think it would be the best for 7.1.5 and why.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Fenodoree

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey,

 

well basically you still can't tell which spec will be good since it is still PTR!

 

To your points:

1. Manacosts are still the same. Dataminer found out that it is just a Tooltip bug!

https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/803773777985187840

2. Fire has a huge nerf compared to live-servers. Fire is losing >10% base-crit, so you have to cast Fireball a lot!

Edited by Lily
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's not even just that Lily.  there is also the change to the rating conversion (350 -> 400), the flat 50% crit nerf to combustion.. over the course of a fight, we are (conservatively) losing 14 to 19% crit..  Equally important is how all the changes being made currently on the PTR will affect rotation and synergy within the spec.  Casting more fireballs is small potatoes next to our inability to create reliable crit chains that give us those small burst window between Combustions.  Add in the 10% nerf to RoP, and the removal of Ice Floes... they are doing what they promised not to do "fundamentally change a spec during/between tiers".  The changes are huge from all 4 corners.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's too early to tell. Anything can change on the PTR and we can only be certain once the patch goes live.

For now, Arcane looks better and simpler. Frost was also made simpler but was nerfed. Fire has been heavily nerfed too, as already mentioned.

Hopefully, the devs will get some sense into them. The Fire Mage community has been in an outrage ever since the changes were announced, presenting devs with actual facts but they have been ignoring them so far (that comment from Kaivax, if I am not mistaken, was a PR disaster). They only adjusted the bracers a bit (from 150% to 200%, still a nerf from what it currently is) and they buffed Phoenix Flames by 30%. Let's hope that Mage overall gets some love, because it's not in a good place atm.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, i've been saving AP , and i saved about 1.5Mill, and i decided to try Arcane-Fire Dps in the PTR both wth the same equip, both with flasks and crit food.

If you want i can go in the especifications of the equip later, and in a really short test, i got this results.

In a 3 minute fight,Item Level (869)

Fire: (weap lvl 29)

Damage 46.04m -- Dps 248K -- I used the same rotation i use in live, with WS and SB. and (2-1-2-2-1-2)

 

Arcane: (weap lvl 30)

Damage 57.84m -- Dps 307.3K -- I'm not a pro in arcane i probably messed up the rotation a bit. Ws and SB (2-1-2-3-1-1-1)

Notes: Getting a good crit chain going is really hard now, Arcane seems easier,with a lot of damage, but low mobility. 

Edited by Fenodoree

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for sharing Fenodoree :)
 

I am really excited about 7.1.5 :)

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Kirwow
      Hey there!
      I've recently started playing a mage, and I feel like my performance is a little below where it should be right now... I feel like I have the basics of the fire rotation down, but I really want to make any improvements that I can.. I don't really know where i'm going wrong, or what i'm doing that is causing a gap in numbers between me and similarly geared players. I have a log from a normal Xavius fight from earlier, maybe someone could take a look at it and point out any mistakes or give a few pointers?
      Thanks for your time!
      WCL: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xDnCkjbgT7qfMXt1
      armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/thrall/Networks/advanced
    • By Nooksi
      Hello Community,
      I am an experienced Mage player since BC, however I am not satisfied with my mage Damage as it is at the moment:
       
      https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZaknRwz7PCYJbvhT#fight=14&type=damage-done&source=5
       
      Would you point out possible Improvements or grave mistakes visible in the logs?
      http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackrock/Nooksi/simple
       
      Thank you very much!
       
    • By Tauradinn
      Hello, so I started playing DK at the launch of legion, and have enjoyed it so far. I was initially unholy but then changed to frost recently, and am enjoying both specs except for one thing, namely my performance. So there are three frost DK's in my raid and lately the other two are always towards the top of the meter while I'm towards the bottom. There is no large gear difference (I think they both have a couple ilvls on me, but I have the legendary belt), so I was wondering what I was doing wrong. Upon looking at logs I found they both casted significantly more spells than me on all fronts (FS, obliterate, etc.). I also noticed that I need to keep icy talons up more, but can someone tell me why I'm casting so many fewer spells than them (there is no large haste difference, the armory has us all at 30something% haste, even though one of them (Hungerghost) and I only have 20something, and I'm sure the same applies to the other DK), or if there is some other problem, then what is it and how can I fix it? Thanks.
      (will update these links if they're not working (I got an SSL error))
      My armory: https://us.battle.net/login/en/?ref=http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/deathwing/Crohost/&app=com-wow&opt
      other DK (Hungerghost): https://us.battle.net/login/en/?ref=http://us.battle.net/wow/character/kalecgos/Hungerghost/&app=com-wow&opt
      other DK (Selerot): https://us.battle.net/login/en/?ref=http://us.battle.net/wow/character/shattered-halls/Selerot/&app=com-wow&opt
      My parsings page/all my logs (if you want to look at more): https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/11054914/latest/
      ToV Normal Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9JVdT8WK2Dn1f4wy
      Mythic EN Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GLJDKZ27b6P1pMvd
      Heroic EN Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wrHQf6Wztx3gcGPa
      Heroic ToV Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mGDLK2PWRN9C1ax8#fight=1 (note, I'm only in the first six pulls (AKA all the wipes) on Odyn)
      Videos from ToV (they correspond with pulls 1 and 2 from the logs):
      Pull 1: 
      Pull 2: 
       
    • By strazybm
      So I got into a dungeon (Mana Tombs) with a level 71 Frost DK, and this guy was doing some absurd damage 1 shotting everything in his path.
      Was just wondering if anyone could possibly tell me how this guy was doing so much damage at this level
       
      https://gyazo.com/91f93df94d5a7df4fe78adf6b511b9ec
      https://gyazo.com/152b92b697241071a8c8e862acd2b5a0
    • By Archimage
      Wanted to share this: