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Hey guys i am new into dk so i wonder what is best to go at 700 ilvl for raiding smile.png i got 715 ilvl frost weapons and unholy allso ,got both of them smile.png and is skull of war max upgraded worth the purchase for ether of those specs? smile.png or is there any other trinket what is actually good and i can purchase? smile.png  and any Uh advice would be amazing smile.png all i keep hearing is it is really hard to play. and is UH at all worth to go if i dont have legendary ring?

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Frost is generally better until you get close to BiS heroic gear and legendary ring. That said, play what you want. Normal and heroic (and honestly even mythic after the Valor upgrades) don't really require you to min/max to be successful.

As for trinkets, Skull of War shines for Unholy once you get the ring if you can line up the ring's use with the trinket's ICD. Skull kinda sucks for Frost though, because crit is pretty blah for it.

Unholy isn't hard to play per se but there is a definite learning curve, especially with the Breath of Sindragosa playstyle.

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Demonvark has a good guide here to answer this one. 

Basically you want 30% unbuffed multi and the legendary ring and some nice trinkets. The 4 piece tier set helps alot too.

BoS is a major dps boost if you do it right and its just takes some work to get the hang of it and then alot more work to master it. 

Even at the getting the hang of it stage you should see a dps increase.

 

Not sure if UH works as well without the ring with BoS but it can work nicely with the NP talent and keeping your diseases on all the toons at max stacks while you get your ring. Something to think about.

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I cant edit my post but its Demonardvark's guide.

 

The NP play style mentioned is Necroblight as well.

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I tried the BoS without having the 30% multi unbuffed and its not as good as DW frost for pure dps. 

Stick with frost till you have the gear to use the BoS system.

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So you recomend Multi in NP build?? how much %?? My unbuffed numbers are:

Mastery = 65%

Multi = 40.45% 

 

Runing UH Np atm

 

What you think?

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So you recomend Multi in NP build?? how much %?? My unbuffed numbers are:

Mastery = 65%

Multi = 40.45% 

 

Runing UH Np atm

 

What you think?

 

unholy has no ms cap, stack it till your eyes bleed :D

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So you recomend Multi in NP build?? how much %?? My unbuffed numbers are:

Mastery = 65%

Multi = 40.45% 

 

Runing UH Np atm

 

What you think?

 

unholy has no ms cap, stack it till your eyes bleed biggrin.png

 

 

Edited by Jack4583

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LOL thnx for the info

 

And what about NP stacking mastery??, not recomended??

 

by default you are going to end up with a decent amount of mastery already on your gear, this is enough. mastery WAS  at one point the better necroblight stat. however, adds don't stay up long enough for it to matter, and you need 4-5 long lived adds in order for mastery to over take multistrike (in current raid environment, even on lfr, this doesn't happen ever). so because of the more bursty nature of current progression the value of multistrike is far greater than mastery. 

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