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Noob question on stagger

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Okay so I'm new to monks, I used my legion 100 boost on a monk. 

Yesterday I ran Neltharion's Lair and Darkheart Thicket, and saw something on Skada that had me wandering.

I saw that my stagger damage and damage taken from auto attacks is almost the same, even if I'm using purifying brew. Now, the question is:

Should I be taking more damage from stagger, even if I'm using purifying brew, or should I be taking more damage from autos? Does it matter that much if I'm thinking on tanking for mythic+, heroic raiding?

(Idk if this is a dumb question, I'm just a 102 monk wanting to learn how to tank correctly)

 

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Well, your first priority is keeping Ironskin Brew (ISB) up as close to 100% uptime as possible, since it increases the amount of damage you stagger by 40% (so, 80% of damage is staggered).  Stagger should be a majority of your damage taken.  You typically use Purifying Brew "as needed" or when you have extra brew charges (since ISB and PB share charges).  The Black Ox Brew talent really helps here because 1) It gives you 3 brew charges instantly and 2) its cooldown is reduced in the same way that ISB/PB's cd is reduced (4s reduction on Keg Smash and 1s reduction on Tiger Palm or 2s when empowered with Black-Out Combo).

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1 hour ago, Orthios said:

Well, your first priority is keeping Ironskin Brew (ISB) up as close to 100% uptime as possible, since it increases the amount of damage you stagger by 40% (so, 80% of damage is staggered).  Stagger should be a majority of your damage taken.  You typically use Purifying Brew "as needed" or when you have extra brew charges (since ISB and PB share charges).  The Black Ox Brew talent really helps here because 1) It gives you 3 brew charges instantly and 2) its cooldown is reduced in the same way that ISB/PB's cd is reduced (4s reduction on Keg Smash and 1s reduction on Tiger Palm or 2s when empowered with Black-Out Combo).

Thank you, this was what I was looking for. And yeah, I'm switching to Black Ox Brew right away, it makes a lot of sense now. 

 

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