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Fury warrior t21 low dps (need help)

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Hello. I'm from Russia, so my English isn't very good, but I need help.

My Armory: link

My Warcraftlog armory: link

My warcraftlog battle: link

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Good player armory: link

Good player warcraftlog armory: link

Good player warcraftlog battle: link

 

My priority skills: rampage > BT > RB > FS

So rotation like this: BC - BloodBath - ramp - odyn's fury - BT - RB - ramp - BT - RB - RB - fs .... BC - ramp - etc

also I user free excute procs ofcourse.

 

Simcraft show me that my best DPS must be near 1 860 000. But in fact my dps near 1.4M (maximum). 

As you can see "good player" do much better dps then I with same iLvL.

 

What I doning wrong?
 

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Others will be able to help more, but the fact that you don't have the legs is a huge impact on your ST DPS - compared to you, the other player gained an additional 709 Rage (with 63 wasted), purely from having the Valarjar Beserkers, on your last Garothi Heroic kill. That's a massive difference in the number of Rampages you can cast.

What other legendaries do you have available than the 2 rings?

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Hi, Blainie

I don't have helm or legs. All other legendaries wich I have are worse two rings (tested in stimcraft)

I know my legendaries isn't BIS - it's not a problem. I mean my problem is not a low dps,  my problem is a difference between Simcraft tests and real fight with boss. 1.85M vs 1.3M dps

When I was in t20 difference didn't was so big. Why difference so big now? I think I doing somthing wrong...

I have full t21, my iLvL is grow - but dps doesn't changing. You can see my logs in normal/heroic  in ~942 ilvl - dps like now in 955 ilvl -.-

 

 

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1 hour ago, Danterino said:

I know my legendaries isn't BIS - it's not a problem. I mean my problem is not a low dps,  my problem is a difference between Simcraft tests and real fight with boss. 1.85M vs 1.3M dps

I meant my point more about you saying the other guy with similar item level does more DPS. He has better gear and better legendaries, so comparing with him is kinda useless (10% more Haste, uses a solid Convergence of Fates (915), Valarjar legendary).

1 hour ago, Danterino said:

I have full t21, my iLvL is grow - but dps doesn't changing. You can see my logs in normal/heroic  in ~942 ilvl - dps like now in 955 ilvl -.-

Now that you're using Bloodbath, things look better in regards to how much damage they should be doing (looking at Mythic log vs. old Heroic one). But - why do you have so few casts of Bloodbath? I can understand delaying it for Heroism, but you delay a lot. As long as a minute even, sometimes. Slight delays are fine due to rotation, but keeping it off cooldown for 20+ seconds for no particular reason isn't ideal. 

At 3:45, for example, you could have used it as soon as it came off-cooldown, had the entire duration and then moved for the slam. Instead, you delayed it, then didn't use it due to the slam being cast, had to run to the back and ended up not using it until 4:10. That's nearly a full cooldown of the spell just caused by mismanagement. You don't move back for the slam until 3:57, meaning there's 12 seconds there that you could have delayed it and used the entire duration of it. 

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I use Bloodbath only in BC window... so every 50 sec  - is it wrong?

If I will use it on cooldown could I delay BC for waiting Bloodbath cooldown? or use everything  (BC and Bloodbath) on own cooldowns?

 

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6 hours ago, Danterino said:

I mean my problem is not a low dps,  my problem is a difference between Simcraft tests and real fight with boss. 1.85M vs 1.3M dps

The problem is you trying to hit a perfectly simmed number that a calculator spit out. You won't hit it. SimulationCraft is a calculator of a perfect situation - perfect rotation, never moving, etc. You won't see that in game so, naturally, your numbers will be lower.

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You don't appear to be using Convergence of Fates. It's a required trinket for the Fury rotation. Once you get this trinket, macro Bloodbath to Battle Cry. Until then I would suggest using BB on CD and lining it up with Battle Cry when you can. Delaying it a few seconds to line up every other one is a lot better than going 60 seconds without using it.

Additionally, as Bainie noted, you do not have your legs. Don't fret - this is a problem I'm also having right now. RNG wants to give me every other legendary except the legs. Just keep working toward them.

Get all these things in order and you'll see your numbers come up pending you keep a proper priority on your rotation.

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13 minutes ago, Sajakain said:

Additionally, as Bainie noted, you do not have your legs. Don't fret - this is a problem I'm also having right now. RNG wants to give me every other legendary except the legs. Just keep working toward them.

Get all these things in order and you'll see your numbers come up pending you keep a proper priority on your rotation.

Since you're a lot better with this than I am, would you agree on my point with Bloodbath in the example? I feel like he could have used it prior to the mechanic popping (something DBM will show) and then have it up for a BC after returning to the boss. Don't want to be misguiding him.

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2 hours ago, Blainie said:

Since you're a lot better with this than I am, would you agree on my point with Bloodbath in the example? I feel like he could have used it prior to the mechanic popping (something DBM will show) and then have it up for a BC after returning to the boss. Don't want to be misguiding him.

Yeah. Without CoF and having the opportunity to use BB, he could've easily done so to take advantage of the talent and then had it up again for the next BC window. That's just free damage he missed out on.

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Hi all.

I checked my logs again and... there is now Avatara buff! Oo 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yzknZ7ctvXBx1TC3#fight=21&type=auras&source=11

also I see that some times I use rampage at Frothing Berserker buff but not at 100 rage => so I decrease buff uptime. 

 

Update

I gained a helmet xD

 

I'll do some test with COF and without, with BB on Cooldown and only at BC windows and show you my results. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tests reuslts.

My simcraft: https://ibb.co/jwWmKm

 

My video tests:

COF BB in camro with BC https://youtu.be/FYOgZyTTwsQ

no COF BB in camro with BC https://youtu.be/GGHoZ58t6N0

no COF BB on cooldown https://youtu.be/7zoJnNFyvYY

 

As you can see my real tests results have the same little difference like simcraft. So COF or NOT  - it's very big qestion for me.

 

What you can say about my rotation? Do u see some mistakes?

 

p.s. sorry for music in video. I didn't know that Nvidia write music from my audio player Oo

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How'd you even get a 1,8 mil sim without CoF and not using BIS Legendarys.

Seems to me that sim is broken.

I sim with a rough of 1,7 mil with BIS Legendarys and able to achieve it maybe on Varimathras if you have a lucky execute phase.

T21 favors the execute phase which provides a rough boost in dps which can't be simmed accurately due to the fact that you never know how long the execute phase takes. So don't give a shit about sim dps.

 

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