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I'm not entirely sure what I am doing wrong that is getting me this result, but I am getting about a 30k dps difference on training dummy when I use a defile, clawing shadows, shadow infusion build than when I use the recommended talents. I left the rest of my talents unchanged and I have yet to see where the dps difference is coming from (arbiter or clawing shadows), but I'm very confused as to how this could happen. Links to armory and mrrobot below.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/wyrmrest-accord/goragi

https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/simulator/report/f3a7a9c5f88e4d10b5cb45224684a073

Defile damage breakdownArbiter damage breakdown

I felt like I had a harder time keeping my disease up and using coldheart on cooldown (or rather whenever at max stacks) with the arbiter build. Am I missing some key thing or do I just need to git gud? Thanks in advance for any help.

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9 hours ago, WindowsSeven said:

I felt like I had a harder time keeping my disease up and using coldheart on cooldown (or rather whenever at max stacks) with the arbiter build. Am I missing some key thing or do I just need to git gud? Thanks in advance for any help.

This is what your talent sims look like when compared:

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wtfvuYMGVoiLHhRqzH39No

You sim 10%-11% lower when using Defile, so you should 100% be doing more damage with the standard DA build.

Get a log of yourself on Vari normal/LFR and we can see what is going wrong.

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It could be a stupid question (I know it is, but to be sure): Are you hitting multiple dummys with your defile?

It happened to me, when i was testing talents....

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4 hours ago, Vorguz said:

It could be a stupid question (I know it is, but to be sure): Are you hitting multiple dummys with your defile?

It happened to me, when i was testing talents....

I was not surprisingly (barring 1 or 2 ticks when it hit max size) so not sure there.

On 5/12/2018 at 4:39 AM, Blainie said:

This is what your talent sims look like when compared:

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wtfvuYMGVoiLHhRqzH39No

You sim 10%-11% lower when using Defile, so you should 100% be doing more damage with the standard DA build.

Get a log of yourself on Vari normal/LFR and we can see what is going wrong.

I will try to get one when I get home from work today. Sorry for the slow response.

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44 minutes ago, WindowsSeven said:

I will try to get one when I get home from work today. Sorry for the slow response.

No worries! I'll take a look when you get one.

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Low mastery doesn't help with DA build too.  I'd try and drop some of your Versa for Mastery if possible.  In regards to Cold heart, I use a Weak Aura to Track the Stack next to my character, It makes a noise at max stacks so i don't really have to watch it much.  As far as Disease management if you use a custom UI, try to get a good Debuff tracker on the target healthbar (just some sort of timer) just try to always refresh at 1-2 sec.  Otherwise Make sure to pool your resources and refresh your Virulent Plague before starting a DA Burst window.  Other than that Pray for the RNG gods to give you Leggo Shoulders to really up DA damage.

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On 5/12/2018 at 4:39 AM, Blainie said:

This is what your talent sims look like when compared:

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wtfvuYMGVoiLHhRqzH39No

You sim 10%-11% lower when using Defile, so you should 100% be doing more damage with the standard DA build.

Get a log of yourself on Vari normal/LFR and we can see what is going wrong.

Ok so I'm a dumbass and forgot to actually log the varmiathras fight. I do however have logs for aggramar and argus. If needed I can try to rerun varimathras.

Aggramar

Argus

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12 hours ago, Matster said:

Low mastery doesn't help with DA build too.  I'd try and drop some of your Versa for Mastery if possible.  In regards to Cold heart, I use a Weak Aura to Track the Stack next to my character, It makes a noise at max stacks so i don't really have to watch it much.  As far as Disease management if you use a custom UI, try to get a good Debuff tracker on the target healthbar (just some sort of timer) just try to always refresh at 1-2 sec.  Otherwise Make sure to pool your resources and refresh your Virulent Plague before starting a DA Burst window.  Other than that Pray for the RNG gods to give you Leggo Shoulders to really up DA damage.

 Personally, I always preferred Mastery over other stats on UH although admittedly I haven't paid too much attention to off-stats this xpac I'll definitely make mastery a priority when considering side grades.

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On your Aggramar kill, your setup was a bit off.  if there is a timer at about 6-7s before pull pop army.  Then Virulent plague as you run in, 2 festering Strikes to get +6 stacks of wounds, then refresh plague -> Apocalypse -> DA (pop any on demand CD's)-> Deathcoil spam.  I would spec into unholy Frenzy, clawing shadows is better for high movement fights, but frenzy has better synergy with DA.  If you can still get your hands on one, COF from nighthold will help sync up cd's also.

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On 5/19/2018 at 1:04 AM, WindowsSeven said:

Ok so I'm a dumbass and forgot to actually log the varmiathras fight. I do however have logs for aggramar and argus. If needed I can try to rerun varimathras.

Aggramar

Argus

Just returning to this - you have no ACL enabled, so running you through WoWAnalyzer, for example, is impossible.

Looking at the log manually, I can't see certain things like your positioning (no replay available) or your resource usage. I also can't check your gear, legendaries used, talents used.

Even without this stuff, I can already see your opener is wrong. Your usage of spells is kind of all over the place, but I can't tell if that's due to a problem on Aggramar or not. Retake a log on Vari, enabled Advanced Combat Logging and I'll take a look (this time I'll do it a bit faster!)

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