Restoration Druid 8.3

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This thread is for comments about our Restoration Druid guide.

[Guest Ready2Rez]

Torty, the talents are off I think, If healing touch is gone, is abundance still there affectingit?

[Guest CryBoy]

No blink...
No moving tranq....

What's else???

[Guest Spring Blossoms]

Spring Blossoms requires a lot of players in your group to be stacked. It is the most optimal if you can keep Efflorescence under 9 people or more consistently throughout the fight without moving it too often.

 

What's the point of putting Efflorescence under more then 9 people, when it only affect  3 people at a time?

[Adamselene 9]

3 hours ago, Guest Spring Blossoms said:

What's the point of putting Efflorescence under more then 9 people, when it only affect  3 people at a time?

Efflorescence heals 3 people every 2 seconds, but the healing applied by Spring Blossoms lasts for 6.  In an ideal situation you do not want Efflorescence to heal the same person before the duration of Spring Blossoms runs out, because then it will over-write the HoT and you will lose potential healing.  Having 9 people in your Efflorescence will eliminate the chance of that happening.

So for example you have characters 1 through 9 in an Efflo:
Tick 1: #1, 2, and 3 have 6 seconds of spring blossoms

Tick 2: #1, 2, and 3 have 4 seconds of spring blossoms, #4, 5, and 6 have 6 seconds of spring blossoms.

Tick 3: #1, 2, and 3 have 2 seconds of spring blossoms, #4, 5, and 6 have 4 seconds of spring blossoms, #7, 8, and 9 have 6 seconds of spring blossoms.

With the next tick it will have fallen off of #1, 2, and 3 and the cycle repeats with no healing lost. 

[Zickaa 0]

It's going to be haste / crit not mastery ... with 3 pieces "Autumn Leaves" trait
Tranqui 2min, ToL and Flourish.

Edited July 21, 2018 by Zickaa

[Mekc 0]

I see the Azurite trait page is updated.

Autumn Leaves seem to be most powerful trait as per guide, but the worst-designed as well. I think it is complete garbage for Mythic+, and makes your Mastery and adaptive healing obsolete in Raids as well. In raids, even with specific talents, it may be a HPS king, but bad for high incoming damage whenever you have Tranquility on CD.

For Mythic Raid progression Restodruids stack Mastery, same thing for Mythic+. So Autumn Leaves will be a bad choice overall and may become good when all raids are on "farm" state. But still, the trait that implies not using anything except Rejuv feels so badly designed.

As I see it, the best overall traits (progression raids and mythic+), will be the following (meaning you take them and don't change - of course there will be better choices if you wanna change for specific bosses and Mythic+):

1) Waking Dream - Ysera's Gift from 5 secs to 4 secs + increase in healing for each Rejuv (does Germination count? I guess yes), so it's a great automatic clever healing. Good for both raids and Mythic+.

2) Rampant Growth - Rampant Growth. Restodruids always use free clearcasting procs, so it is a free hot on tank. With Abundance in Mythic+ it is even better.

3) Blood Siphon - Mastery and Leech altogether is the best passive buff you get from traits.

All these traits are active all the time and are not proc based (unlike Swiftmend or Innervate traits).

Edited August 6, 2018 by Mekc

[Guest Eluv]

How exactly does Rampant Growth work? In the event that the tank only receives a "copy" of the Regrowth HoT exactly (and not a new HoT called Rampant Growth) this seems very weak in dungeons, where it seems unlikely you won't be casting a significant number of Regrowths on the tank, absent other direct healing options.

[Mekc 0]

15 hours ago, Torty said:

I posted rankings of traits in the end. 

Neither Swiftmend, nor Innervate traits are proc based. 

I meant Innervate trait is once per 3 min. Swiftmend trait is once per 27 seconds or something. I mean they are not active all the time, and they only proc (100%) when you use the CD ability.

What about Resounding Protection? What is the %? Now in-game it shows about 25% of my current HP. I guess it is made after Prydaz? So depending on HP and fight it is about 1-1.5k HPS and makes Ysera's Gift prioritize other people. Is it really Tier-3?

 

[Mekc 0]

Also wanted to ask, when is it planned to update the guide for 120 lvl? It's 6 days left before AddOn.

All the data is available already. For gear, azurite gear, flasks, food and so on.

[Guest Eluv]

12 hours ago, Mekc said:

I meant Innervate trait is once per 3 min. Swiftmend trait is once per 27 seconds or something. I mean they are not active all the time, and they only proc (100%) when you use the CD ability.

What about Resounding Protection? What is the %? Now in-game it shows about 25% of my current HP. I guess it is made after Prydaz? So depending on HP and fight it is about 1-1.5k HPS and makes Ysera's Gift prioritize other people. Is it really Tier-3?

 

It could be that I was experiencing a tooltip bug, but on beta at 120 Resounding Protection was in the range of 1%-2% of my health. This wasn't an outlier either, as nearly all the defensive traits appeared to be negligible hps increases, effective or realized.

One oddity that my be bugfixed was the trait that heals you when stunned or knocked back. This triggered on Travel Form Wild Charge, presumably because of how it's coded, but could be relevant if there are outdoor fights.

[Mekc 0]

On 8/7/2018 at 1:47 PM, Torty said:

Resounding Protection is strong, yes. One of the better traits across all tiers. Tier 3 means it is found on tier 3 of your Azerite gear (inner most ring), not that it is a bad trait by any means. 

Ah, I actually did not get it first.

I see you already changed it to "Rings" to make it more intuitive, thanks )

Edited August 10, 2018 by Mekc
Update

[Guest adiscotree]

In the Azerite Traits section, what is Reorigination Array 1, 2, 3 about? I get that there's a trait called Reorigination Array - is this for the 3 pieces of gear? If so, why are you are recommending it as a good trait with the Int value looking so weak? Unless it's not the 3 pieces of gear...

[Guest Tayou]

How does Cenarion Ward make sense with current scaling? It heals for the same amount that Swiftmend does with a longer cooldown, and we don't get two of them. Harmony is it's only synergy, and your azerite trait choices counter harmony. If I want to leave a single Rejuvenation on someone to benefit from Autumnal leaves, I should want a second Swiftmend for spot healing. This can't possibly be right in the current build.

[Guest Zaneri]

Why is Germination a bad choice combined with Autumn leaves? Autumn leaves says if Rejunivation ist the only hot it provides the more healing, with germination its still the same hot no other one.

 

Am i right with these thoughts? if not pls explain my mistake :)

[Guest Eluv]

I've done my best to port Leafy's RDSW Weakaura over to BFA. I'd appreciate any testing folks are willing to do. Apart from putting in new Stat -> percentage scaling factors, and fixing a few issues introduced by API changes, I did make a minor change to behavior. I set the haste scaling flag on the direct healing portion of Regrowth to true, where it used to be false. This is an attempt to approximate the notion that you'd have cast that % "more Regrowths" over the fight. 

 

Here's the WA import: https://wago.io/H1YwyvJwX

[Guest Rulem]

Torty,

 

Any chance you will add a DPS overview for resto in the M+ section?  Specifically, talent selection (feral vs balance affinity), quick rotation overview, and azerite trait selection to increase damage output?  I am rather new to resto and, when attempting to do damage, I'm finding feral dps to be extremely low and I typically do more damage staying in resto and keeping dots up and spamming solar wrath.   I am clearly doing something wrong.  

[Guest Chuuy]

Missing azerite trait:Stronger together

Glided-wing shoulderguards

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=280625/stronger-together

[Guest Herbalist]

Came back to this guide because I remember a few weeks ago it claimed balance affinity was capable of out damaging feral affinity, and I was gonna argue about it with the author.   I show up and see he has not only already made the correction but has also added an awesome guide to dpsing with feral affinity!  Awesome job Torty thanks for the hard work.

[Guest Nagash]

Torty. The Champions of Azeroth rep chest piece has Fungal Essence or Champion of Azeroth in the outer tier. Fungal you rate as a C, but Champion of Azeroth isn't listed. Thoughts?

[Herbalist 0]

Hey, question on dpsing as resto spec.  From a pure dps standpoint, which potion is strongest? The new bursting blood potion or an int potion? Or does it depend on the fight?

[Guest Herbalist]

Might want to update the section about viability in the current patch!  Resto druid is the most played healer in mythic+ and in the us/oceana every top 25 run of mythic+ is either a resto druid or a disc priest! so id say we're just ass sought after as ever, if not more!

goood time to be a resto druid! =D 

 

https://raider.io/mythic-plus/season-bfa-1/all/us/leaderboards-strict#role=healer:mode=unique:minMythicLevel=2:maxMythicLevel=99

[Guest Jaikthedruid]

There is a minor mistake on the Azerite page. The Passive "Savior" Azerite power currently shows to proc on targets below 50% health. The comments on the page state it is a bad choice because it only procs below 35% health. Was this changed to proc at 50% or am I missing something?

[Guest sao]

fail^^
plz look the Azerit-Part of GuardianDruid... y u dont make middel and inner ring for restro?

 

[Guest mayurih]

Hi! I just got this trinket rolling for balance in mythic Vigilant's Bloodshaper .

The question is, i still have  Darkmoon Deck: Tides and i was wondering if changing the Darkmoon Deck for the Vigilant's Bloodshaper it's worth just for the intellect. (in mythic taloc the darkmoon deck health for 55k during a fight of 7.5 mins).

What do you think?

Thank you!