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[Prot] Heroic Raiding Advice Request

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Hi all,

 

I've been raiding with my 25 man guild for the past 2 months as the off tank to our GM, a Blood DK. I had a few problems on Heroic Siegecrafter ranging from deaths from Siegecrafer and/or not being able to kill the shredder fast enough. I resolved those issues but its still a work in progress for myself and the guild. The week prior to the twitch video linked, I was out of range of healers but that has been resolved this past week. However, I've been receiving criticism from my raid leader that I need to use cooldowns more often (to die less) and do more DPS overall in the raid. I'm hoping to get some advice on how to do each of these things as we continue pushing into Heroic Paragons and subsequently Garrosh. Above are links to my guild's most recent raid on Siegecrafter and Paragons. Any feedback is very much appreciated!

 

-Ace

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I'll be looking into this tomorrow, and will provide a detailed response. A few questions: are the complaints you receive specific to any fights, or just overall towards your raid?

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The deaths were mainly on Siegecrafter. There were periods of time where I'd be out of range of healers but I've found a way around that by rotating the boss. The damage is presumably on all fights. There are logs and stream recordings for the past 2 weeks or so (I just seated recording both).

Thank you so much for taking the time to review this.

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Fouton, thank you SO MUCH for taking the time to sift through and write ALL of that. That's extremely helpful and I really appreciate it. I'll bring the information to my Officers and go from there. I actually have the Herioc Prismatic Prison in my bag (I just got it last Tuesday) so I'll get it upgraded and start using it. I was also noticing that I'm not casting Judgement / Crusader strike enough which would obviously give me considerably more Holy Power. I think on Average I'm using Judgement every ~5.5 seconds even though it has a ~4 second cooldown. I know this would help considerably but I'm also looking for ways to improve besides this. Beyond that, I know we've talked about changing up our strategy for shredders we just haven't attempted it.

 

Thanks again Fouton. I truly, truly appreciate it!

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this isn't directly referring to you, but give your ret those hit/haste bracers. Seeing that hit reforge hurts my eyes.

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Nah those bracers are BiS tongue.png check my armoury, you'll be even more sad tongue.png it's impossible for a 580+ prot paladin to get under hit cap if they're gearing right >.<

And yeah I hadn't done the math on your CS/J, so I didn't quite notice it. It would be a good gain to work on though, maybe 5% to SoTR

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not for ret especially if you are doing 50% haste/crit build, which anyone above 580 should be doing

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hence why I said not referring to her/him/possible animal (I don't judge) you know I can't resist looking at rets (I have a bad habit of looking at every single ret I notice and if I meet someone I go through their guild and find their most progressed ret :P because I like helping rets for the betterment of rets :D

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Watching just the first few minutes of the pull it seems like you're taking way too much fire damage. Try to avoid that if at all possible, it's extra damage the healers are having to heal. At one point I saw 4 stacks while just making the run back after killing the Shredder. 

 

Also, try to be a little more liberal with your Devo. There's a few times that spike damage gets the raid down below 20% and starts picking off players that may have the fire debuff. Devo will help tremendously in those circumstances.

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