Toxis 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 Hi there, first time posting :) Normally i just read what suits me best but seeing how i couldnt find what i was looking for i had to see what your opinion is on the matter. Brf loot is full of mastery and multistrike, not good for Combat but extremly good for Sub. What do you think the optimal spec is going to be with a few pieces of Brf loot. I think, Assasination might make a strong comeback. HM loot was very low on mastery and multistrike making it a sub par spec, which is going to change with Brf. P.s. Asking this cause i want to make the most out of my stacked bonus roll coins starting wednesday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrn 284 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 I doubt that Assassination will top both other Rogue specs. There's a lot of gear which is MUCH better optimized for all specs, and in my personal opinion Sub and Combat will stay the same into the end of the tier. The set bonuses are so amazingly strong currently that it's hard to say though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aceydubs 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2015 I've been wondering this myself. I have my speculations, hopes, and theories all of which are based on NOT HAVING DONE ANY MATH. So I hope some empirical data will get posted by some Rogues with big brains. I like to ride the wave of information. I don't create the wave. Much love and respect to those who get down and dirty with the numbers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeolla 1 Report post Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Carrn, you think we combat mains should be gemming / enchanting our combat gear for Multistrike for our Sub? The gain for sub w/ this approach outweighs (almost double) the loss for combat according to SC. Then again, there few (4?) single target fights in BRF I think, so I'm currently unsure of the proper approach I want to take. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/korgath/aeolla/advanced Edited February 3, 2015 by Aeolla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wymanmanderly 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 How has everyone been using killing spree on Gruul and Oregorger so far? On The Butcher, I would generally wait until bounding cleave and then shadowstep behind him and KS. But, after a few runs of each of the new bosses - I'm not quite sure how to time it and it's affecting my DPS. What is everyone else doing to make up for lost DPS here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrn 284 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 For both of them make sure KS is glyphed. I use it normall on cd on Oregorger, and just use Cloak if he put the Crystal down near me before I popped it For Gruul I just make sure he's not about to Slice and / or Petrify isn't about to Shatter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrn 284 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Carrn, you think we combat mains should be gemming / enchanting our combat gear for Multistrike for our Sub? The gain for sub w/ this approach outweighs (almost double) the loss for combat according to SC. Then again, there few (4?) single target fights in BRF I think, so I'm currently unsure of the proper approach I want to take. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/korgath/aeolla/advanced For progression, play whichever spec you end up getting weapon drops for. If there's more than one Rogue, try and sort yourselves so that you don't overlap on gear. There are some fights where Combat is probably mandatory, like Blast Furnace, but I cleared through normal as Sub only to test it and was fine. If you feel like you'll play both, Multi is the way to go. Your weapons will give you the better stats since you don't use the same ones per each spec. If you're actually doing Mythic progression at a quick pace, it's probably worth investing in changing gems / chants from fight to fight. At least there aren't a lot of ones to redo this expansion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipsinch 46 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 Guys, I have a really noobish question. Is any improvement to use a slow offhand as Sub? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrn 284 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 How do you mean? If the slow weapon gives good stats then yes go ahead and use it. Sub offhand is pretty much just a stat stick. For example, the axe from Twins was the BiS offhand weapon from Highmaul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wymanmanderly 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 For both of them make sure KS is glyphed. I use it normall on cd on Oregorger, and just use Cloak if he put the Crystal down near me before I popped it For Gruul I just make sure he's not about to Slice and / or Petrify isn't about to Shatter Does using KS on oregorger affect the spew acid ability at all? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrn 284 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 It shouldn't if your tank is standing pretty much inside his model. I have yet to try mitigating that damage for the ranged with CoS... Interesting thought I'll try it soon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipsinch 46 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Stat stick it is. I had this in mind, but since slow weapons have higher atk values I wondered if it had any influence on DPS. Thing is - they're slow. Then the speed offsets the damage bonus. Told ya, noobish. Eh, thanks Carrn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrn 284 Report post Posted February 6, 2015 Offhand swings with a slower weapon have normalized enchant / poisons procs (and energy regen for Combat as well) so it should be approximately equal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
