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3year break from Prot Paladin - Back and hurting

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Hello. I raided BC and WoTK with a Prot paladin to extreme success. Server firsts, top ranked, etc... whatever. I since have taken a 3 year break from paladins and a absence from wow entirely for probably 18months. I only came back for Warlords. This is the very. VERY first time i've ever posted or asked for help from anyone. This is a pride i'm choking down to admit I nee help! 

 

I am now raiding with a pretty good group trying to get the train rolling again. My problem is since Holy Power was introduced, I seem to have never really re-grasped my Paladin. We are downing bosses and being somewhat successful but as the raid leader, My confidence is shot because I feel as if I am part of the problem. My DPS is sub-par, and my damage taken is chunky and terrifying.

 

Armoryhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/thunderhorn/Solidbottom/simple

Logs https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/d4pDAM189yrWcbkX/

 

My concerns are lack of dps due to something inherently wrong with my actions. My rotation is the Icyveins/Theck rotation. I follow sacred duty, got as much haste as I could etc etc. Also use his weak auras to try and stay ontop of it. I feel as if, If I don't get lucky procs for SotR or have a cooldown up at all times. (perfect rotations) one tiny slip up by even 2 seconds and I get murdered into having to blow a cooldown I wanted for later, etc etc. 

 

Our Druid tank is shitting all over me in burst damage taken and dps. Can anyone see something inherently wrong with my Character or my logs? 

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To be honest I am not the best at reading other peoples logs but you seem to have the general idea of what you need to do. If you are having troubles with taking too much damage remeber that you can always heal up those gaps in your mitigation, I know that sounds like an obvious thing to do but I have seen a number of Paladins forego healing just to put some extra time on SotR when healing would be more benificial at that point. I sypathise with your threat problem as some of the other tanks while bursting can cause threat problems and you may need to discuss with your other tank when he can burst or maybe make sure your Rogue and Hunter are using MD and tricks on you when needed.

 You did say that you have only just returned to Paladin so it could be as simple as that you have just not settled back in yet.

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From what I can see on those logs, you are doing pretty fine dps as your current ilvl and talents you have.

 

It's seems that you want to make thing smoother on your defensive plus damage done, so I suggest you you make some changes on talents ( Holy Avenger instead of Divine purpose - if you know how to use Seraphim well, thats better choice).

 

So if you are main tank to start fight first, as opener I suggest you to SS yourself 2 time to get bubble buff well then pull boss, after that make sure to proc Seraphim quickly as possible, then cast your Holy avenger and build as much as SoTr proc you can (it also help your dps too b/c every cast of SoTr will increase your burst dps). After this phase im pretty sure your druid tank will taunt boss of you and you dont need to worry about damage taken unless something happen, in this moment since Seraphim Cooldown is only 30 sec, be ready to use it with Divine protection (if you have it glyphed) to smooth your damage taken until you get your Holy avenger back ready for use.

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Just a Couple of suggestions, firstly your Sacred Sheild uptime is only around 80% this needs to be much closer to 100% 

 

Shield of the Righteous uptime could be better aswell. 

 

I would suggest trying out the Serephim build on some target dummies and seeing if you are able to play it, it will smooth out your damage taken and give you a nice bursty increase to your DPS 

 

your SS uptime on butcher was perfect and you should be aiming for that every time, 

 

take a look at my setup if you want an idea for talents. glyphs change per boss as do some talents but this should give you a good baseline. 

 

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/twisting-nether/Na%C3%BAss/simple 

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I really appreciate it guys. Thank you for the notes and tips. I got torn apart on the WoW forums with every little thing. So tips on progressing to a better performance is far more helpful. I will keep at it.

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No problem mate, if you need anything further please feel free to PM me. 

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