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If you find you can live without the toughness from Unity, ORoTZ is a good choice to cube.  It will keep your Furious Charge perpetually available (for those moments that you charge one mob and set it on an agonizing cooldown) and help with any fury concerns.

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Guest Tom

I dunno. I've got massive problems with Fury generation on this build. The survivability is great, the DPS is there, but at times you're just running around doing nothing waiting for some Fury.

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Guest Alemiser

I have massive fury issue with t10 speed farm as well.

This might be good for grift push...

 

 

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Guest Guest

Am i missing something but u cant have 6/4 set bonus as theres no RoRG

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Guest Crushfield

Why does this call for both focus and restraint when youre only getting the one 50% increase?

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It's not a 6/4 build it's a 6/2 build. You are getting the 6 piece set bonus from Immortal King's and the 2 piece set bonus from Wrath of the Wastes.

 

You get the full 100% increased damage from Focus/Restraint by using Whirlwind/Rend and Furious Charge.

 

Did you gets even read the article you're replying to? o.O

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Guest Mosvicious

Furious charge is your fury builder as well as the weapon master passive.

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Guest asdf

issues with single mob fury generation like grift boss. furious charge doesn't do the job there. was wondering to cube those shoulders and generate fury from ancients hits.. any idea what i'm doing wrong or how do you generate enought fury for one single boss? -thanks

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issues with single mob fury generation like grift boss. furious charge doesn't do the job there. was wondering to cube those shoulders and generate fury from ancients hits.. any idea what i'm doing wrong or how do you generate enought fury for one single boss? -thanks

 

Unfortunately cubing the Lamentation is influential in your overall DPS, so I wouldn't skip it for the shoulders you mention. I think a strong infux of Fury can come from crafting a Hellfire Amulet to ease your management, with a passive like Unforgiving, Animosity, or even Superstition.

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Hey Deadset; good to see you posting on your guide.

 

I was talking with Damien earlier about this. Your guide references the 4PC from Immortal Kings quite a bit yet reflects the Wastes set as BiS. This, to me, was confusing / conflicting.

 

Overall I like the playstyle of this build. (I main a warrior in WoW; Arms is my DPS spec of choice; I love a good Rend build!)

 

It was mentioned that the BiS simply represents a point-for-point reflection but the actual build is based off a 6PC Immortal and 2PC Wastes and not vice versa. Is this accurate?

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To people with Fury Problems.

 

My solution is that for the Kanai's cube, you run RoRG instead of Unity.

 

Use the "Fury of the Ancients" shoulder (for the rune effect Ancient's Fury), then run Together as One for your main rune.

 

IK Items (Weapon, Belt) for sure.

For the (Helm, Chest Armor, Gloves, Pants, Boots), make sure you are wearing 3 IK and 2 Wastes.

 

This gives you 5 IK's (+grandeur ring for 6set) and 2 Set Wastes for the Rend Damage.

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I would not recommend using the passiv skill: boon of bul-kathos. it's just a wasted passiv slot, since the CD of wrath of the berserker and the ancients is gone before the first use is even over.

And to the problem with fury starving, this build relies heavily on high density, either by fishing for it yourself and gathering mobs before smashing them all with rend explosions. Or by having a good support to grp up a lot of mobs. There for this build isn't the best for normal rift, but mostly for Grifts pref. in a grp.

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Unfortunately cubing the Lamentation is influential in your overall DPS, so I wouldn't skip it for the shoulders you mention. I think a strong infux of Fury can come from crafting a Hellfire Amulet to ease your management, with a passive like Unforgiving, Animosity, or even Superstition.

 

Would it be worth considering just dropping Together as One for Ancients' Fury?

 

The reason I ask is that, most likely, if you're going to die in the higher GR you're going to die. In my experience(s) the 50% shared doesn't really seem to help. Fury would give anyone more than enough to spend without having to have one of the passives you suggested above.

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It's not a 6/4 build it's a 6/2 build. You are getting the 6 piece set bonus from Immortal King's and the 2 piece set bonus from Wrath of the Wastes.

 

You get the full 100% increased damage from Focus/Restraint by using Whirlwind/Rend and Furious Charge.

 

Did you gets even read the article you're replying to? o.O

So the issue I have with this is that the build itself on the page states that every single Wastes piece is Best in Slot and that the Immortal Kings set is the "alternative" option. So... how exactly is this possible?

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It's not a 6/4 build it's a 6/2 build. You are getting the 6 piece set bonus from Immortal King's and the 2 piece set bonus from Wrath of the Wastes.

 

You get the full 100% increased damage from Focus/Restraint by using Whirlwind/Rend and Furious Charge.

 

Did you gets even read the article you're replying to? o.O

So the issue I have with this is that the build itself on the page states that every single Wastes piece is Best in Slot and that the Immortal Kings set is the "alternative" option. So... how exactly is this possible?

 

 

Check out my US Barbarian. Right now I'm using 6 pieces of the Immortal King's set and 2 pieces of the Wastes set.

 

Six pieces comes from:

  • Helm
  • Chest
  • Gloves
  • Belt
  • Legs
  • Weapon

The two piece comes from:

  • Shoulders
  • Boots

 

In relation to the Focus / Restraint bonuses, you get 50% from Charge (resource generator) and 50% from Rend or Whirlwind (resource spenders).

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why is it bad to put a socket in a weapon through ramaldni's gift?

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why is it bad to put a socket in a weapon through ramaldni's gift?

 

It's not necessarily bad to do so; that's why the item was created. However it's ideal if you don't have to use one and it comes with it by default.

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why is it bad to put a socket in a weapon through ramaldni's gift?

 

It's not necessarily bad to do so; that's why the item was created. However it's ideal if you don't have to use one and it comes with it by default.

 

@Sajakain

Do you have any idea what you're talking about? it's so much better to get a weapon without a socket and use a gift to put a socket in it. It's basically one free stat?!

Let's say you get an ancient weapon, with socket, but no % damage. you reroll the socket to % damage, and use a gift to get a socket. voila, you got both things...

Pls don't guide people in things you're not sure of.

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@Sajakain

 

Do you have any idea what you're talking about? It's so much better to get a weapon without a socket and use a gift to put a socket in it. It's basically one free stat!

 

Let's say you get an ancient weapon, with socket, but no % damage. You reroll the socket to % damage and use a gift to get a socket. Voila, you got both things...

 

Please don't guide people in things you're not sure of.

 

I believe you misinterpreted or misunderstood my post that you quoted. I directly stated "It's ideal if you don't have to use one and it comes with it by default". I didn't provide the reasoning such as yourself so I suppose, in future references, I could post more to support my answer.

 

Speaking of future references, I'd be mindful of how you word things. Tone is a very difficult thing to interpret on a written board.

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@Sajakain

 

Do you have any idea what you're talking about? It's so much better to get a weapon without a socket and use a gift to put a socket in it. It's basically one free stat!

 

Let's say you get an ancient weapon, with socket, but no % damage. You reroll the socket to % damage and use a gift to get a socket. Voila, you got both things...

 

Please don't guide people in things you're not sure of.

 

I believe you misinterpreted or misunderstood my post that you quoted. I directly stated "It's ideal if you don't have to use one and it comes with it by default". I didn't provide the reasoning such as yourself so I suppose, in future references, I could post more to support my answer.

 

Speaking of future references, I'd be mindful of how you word things. Tone is a very difficult thing to interpret on a written board.

 

Ye, sorry about that :)

But stating that "it's ideal if you don't have to use one and it comes with it by default" is wrong. if you weapon comes with a socket or no socket doesn't matter much, since you should ideally reroll the socket away, and use a gift to make the socket since you'll have an extra stat that way (that is if you got a good weapon "ancient" that you're going to keep for a long time)

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It's confusing, I can understand that point.

The bottom line is that we're both on the same page; I just worded my thoughts in a way that is being taken incorrectly.

 

If an ideal (Ancient) weapon comes along with no socket, fine. You have a gift to put one and you can enjoy the stats it came with. If it comes along with a socket you can reroll it for another stat and then use the gift to attach the socket anyway.

 

When I read the quoted question, I took it in the sense that the player was wondering if not to use one at all; he/she was asking in a manner that could imply they'd never use a gift if they obtained one. Overall it's convoluted thinking on my end of things and, ultimately, I should've just posted the relevant information that you and I both agree on.

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Yeah, we're on the same page then :)
Was just confused i guess. Just sounded like you meant that having a weapon that came with the socket (and not rerolling it for another stat and put in gift) was as good as a weapon with a gifted socket. My apologies.

 

Aside from that i think the guide should maybe include alternate gems/gear. Since i don't like Boon of bul-kathos since it's a wasted passive because of IK 6 piece. And imo stricken is better than pain enhancer if you want to push for higher Grifts, because the small adds will die easy with double rend ticking on them, and the problem is the elites and rift guardian.

And last it should include a note about Convention of elements in the cube instead of unity for group play.

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      New Demon Hunter Set: Gears of Dreadlands 2-Piece Bonus Gain a Momentum stack when attacking with a Primary skill. Each Momentum stack lasts 2 seconds at a maximum duration of 10 seconds. Your Primary skills deal 10% more damage per stack of Momentum. 4-Piece Bonus Casting Strafe against enemies will automatically shoot your last used primary skill, and also give 60% damage reduction while strafing and for 5 seconds after. While casting Strafe, you move faster per stack of Momentum. 6-Piece Bonus Your primary skills deal 10000% more damage Leonine Bow of Hashir Bolas have a 30% 100% chance on explosion to pull in all enemies within 24 yards, and also deal 100-150% increased damage. Emimei's Duffel Bolas now explode instantly and deal 150-175% increased damage. The Ninth Cirri Satchel Hungering Arrow has 20-25% is guaranteed to pierce and also deals 450-600% increased damage. Odyssey's End Enemies snared by your Entangling Shots take 20-25% 100-150% increased damage from all sources. Hunter's Wrath Your primary skills attack 30% faster and deal 45-60% 150-200% increased damage. Holy Point Shot Impale throws 2 additional knives and deals 75-100% increased damage. Necromancer
      New Necromancer Set: Masquerade of Burning Carnival 2-Piece Bonus Your Simulacrums no longer take damage, gains all runes, and its cooldown is refreshed when you die. 4-Piece Bonus While you have a Simulacrum, damage is reduced by 50%. Damage you take is split with your Simulacrums as well. 6-Piece Bonus Your Bone Spear deals 10,000% increased damage. Simulacrums gain triple this bonus. Grasps of Essence When an exploded corpse damages at least one enemy, Your Corpse Explosion deals 75-100% 150-200% increased damage for 6 seconds, stacking up to 5 times. Haunted Visions Simulacrum now drains 5% 1% of your maximum life every second and lasts twice as long forever. They can now duplicate Grim Scythe instead of Skeletal Mage. Razeth's Volition Skeletal Mage gains the effect of the Gift of Death and Singularity runes. You gain 35-60% damage reduction if your Essence is not full. Jesseth Arms 2-Piece Set Bonus: While your skeletons are commanded to attack a target, you deal 400% increased damage. Grace of Inarius 4-Piece Set Bonus: Bone Armor grants an additional 2% 3% damage reduction per enemy hit. Pestilence Master's Shroud 6-Piece Set Bonus: Each corpse you consume grants you an Empowered Bone Spear charge that increases the damage of your next Bone Spear by 3300%. In addition, Corpse Lance and Corpse Explosion damage is increased by 1650% 3300%. Crusader
      Shield of Fury This effect may stack up to 20 10 times. General
      Stone of Jordan Added power: Each of your elemental's damage bonus is equal to your highest static elemental bonus to skill. Reaper's Wraps Added a 2-second internal cooldown to the Health globe effect. Mantle of Channeling Now works with the Necromancer's Siphon Blood. Convention of Elements Added "non-static" to the wording of the legendary power's description. The functionality is unchanged
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      Skill Changes
      Necromancer Final Service
      No longer consumes pets.
      Bone Prison Simulacrums now benefit from this passive skill. Serration Simulacrums now benefit from this passive skill. Corpse Explosion Damage increased from 350% to 1050%. Witch Doctor Spirit Barrage The Spectres from the Phantasm rune no longer benefit from pet bonuses. Return to Top
      Bug Fixes
      General Fixed a rare issue where players could enter a locked party and become unable to enter games or change game settings Necromancer Fixed an issue where Skeletal Mages were not attacking certain creatures Return to Top
      How to Participate
      To participate in the public test, you must have a Diablo III game license attached to a Battle.net account in good standing (i.e. one that hasn't been suspended or banned). In addition, you will also need to download and install the Blizzard Battle.net desktop app if you have not already done so.
      Step 1: Restart the Battle.net desktop app.
      Step 2: Navigate to the Diablo III tab on the left-hand menu.
      Step 3: On the Diablo III screen, there is a drop-down menu right above the "Play" button (note that this may say "Install" if you do not have Diablo III currently installed). Select "PTR: Diablo III" from this drop-down menu before proceeding.
      Step 4: Click Install to begin the installation process.
      Your PTR account will be created automatically if you do not already have one. The PTR is available in all supported languages, and accounts from all regions are eligible to participate. For additional assistance with installing and launching the PTR, click here.
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      PTR Character Copy
      The option to copy your existing Diablo III characters from your live account to the PTR will be available and can be done directly through the PTR client. However, only one region per account can be copied at a time. So, if you choose to copy characters from your account in a different region, any previously copied PTR characters will be lost.
      Step 1: Log into the live game and then log out.
      Step 2: Log into PTR client and create a level 1 character. After you're done, return to the main character screen.
      Step 3: Click on the "PTR Copy" button located in the upper right-hand corner. (The PTR Copy button will not appear in-game until you have created a new level 1 character.)
      Step 4: Select your region.
      Step 5: Click "Copy." This will copy all characters on your account from the selected region.
      Step 6: You will be disconnected from the PTR client.
      Step 7: Log back in. Your copied characters will be available for play.
      Please note that you can only copy characters from one gameplay region at a time. If you choose to copy characters from a different region, any previously copied PTR characters will be lost. In addition, you can only copy characters over to your PTR account once every 24 hours. Attempting to copy characters before this cooldown is up will result in an error.
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