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Guest blizzleman

was this build even tried out after 2.4... its way to squishy and kinda disappointing .. if it wasnt tried please dont post it.. spent way to much time farming to get the gear .. chantings and all. WAY TO SQUISHY not viable

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Guest Skarlin

Way too squishy to speed run T10. Something is wrong with this build.

 

I second this.  Waaaay to squishy

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Guest maniacs7

I have to contradict you all - the build is working very well for speedrifts and is pretty amazing.

 

To my character: I started S5 with Crusader and Invoker/Punish build (due to free set). It's great to push higher GRifts due to constant improvement with Boyarsky's gem and gear + huge mitigation. However, this build is for single targets with little AoE and I find it cumbersome and boring to farm for material and keys. The LoN bombard would help - but the gear is hard to get by.

And here this Akkhan Condemn build comes into play. Honestly, I already found a full Akkhan's set while playing Invoker. In case you didn't, that shouldn't be too hard with blood shards (around 2000 BS for 50% chance to get a piece). The only thing I didn't have was the blade of prophecy which I crafted (50% chance to drop after using 281 DBs and 80% chance after 453). These are good chances since I'm still waiting for my first Akarats Awakening to drop or being crafted...

 

Starting at T6 runs, this playstyle was way more fun.

But there is a breakpoint when the build starts becoming awesome: Having 56% CDR for perma Akarat and Boon of the Hoarder and Wreath of Lightning at L25 in comination with gold wrap + Avarice band.

The Toughness due to gold wrap + picking up gold is huge (pickup radius is my screen size) and I never feel squishy after I picked up some first gold. This build depends heaviliy on fast killing + picking up gold. You have to choose the difficulty according to that. The movement speed is very fast due to Boon of the Hoarder and the synergy of Wreath of Lightning and Warzechian Armguards.

 

Bottom line / top priority:

- Get 56% CDR or this build does not work (I rerolled everything just for CDR)

- Get your gems to L25 (with optionally alternative build),

In this initial stage without further gear grinding my fastest T7 Rift was 2:20min (the graveyard thingy).

From then on you can constantly upgrade finding better gear and farm fast GRift stones and this build will easily work at T10.

 

Thank you Deadset for this amazing and unique build.

 

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Guest maniacs7

Some additions to my last post:

 

#1: The Gem Wreath of the Lightning is bugged. The damage dealt is negligible (no matter which level) and the L25 property (+25% movement speed) does not work at all.

So don't upgrade that gem until this bug is fixed!

But you need it equipped to give you the speed boost with Warzechian Armguards.

 

Sources Movement speed:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/17289170785

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/20419272690

 

Damage (my crude calculation):

WoL dmg is based only on weapon damage (WDmg) - so Skill bonus and Akkhan's bonus have no effect. Condemn's internal cooldown is 0,5s (so 2 aps)

WoL Dmg per second = WDmg * WoL Dmg = WDmg * 1000% (for L40) = 10x WDmg

Condemn Dmg per second = 2 * Weapon Dmg * Skill Dmg * Akkhan's Bonus (* Holy% * BotT...)

= 2 * WDmg * 1160% * 450% (*X...) = 104.4x WDmg (*X...)

 

#2: I changed Nemesis Bracers in the Cube for Leorics Crown to double the CDR from the helmet (Diamond). Thus it was way easier to rech perma Akarat Champion earlier.

You get fewer Elites (slightly longer rift times), but the playstyle still works.

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Guest AnnoyedCrusader

Several ancient pieces (weapon included), level 50+ gems, near-optimal stats as per this guide, paragon 500+, and still getting one-shot by lone non-elite mobs with Akarat's Champion up.

 

The Goldwrap belt is NOT optional with this build. It's the single piece that makes it work in the first place! And even then, you actually have to kill something before your armor goes up. Good luck with that if the thing blocking your way is an elite pack. Oh yeah, I should probably mention that this build is, shall we say, not very good at single-target DPS. Condemn is an AOE skill, and the weapon proc requires extra mobs as well. So when you kill all those minions and there's the big guy left, you better pray that you can kill it in less than 5 seconds, because after that your Goldwrap buff will fall off and you'll be left with toughness rating of wet toilet paper.

 

Also, note that by switching to Goldwrap you are losing CDR on your Vigilante belt, which in turn means that in all likelihood, you will not be able to reach the CDR threshold required for 100% uptime of Akarat's Champion. Not without the "extremely rare" amulet that the guide mentions.

 

And yes, all of this fully applies to rift bosses. You'll be spending those fights at the toilet paper level of toughness. Especially considering that this build has absolutely nothing to regain lost health, so good luck with not standing in the fire. And keep in mind that adds summoned by rift bosses don't trigger Boon Hoarder gold explosions. In other words, you'll be doing a lot of praying.

 

(Icing on the cake: there is no visual indicator for Goldwrap buff!)

 

Oh, and by the way. This build's lack of single-target DPS means you might zip through trash packs, yet spend so much time killing elites and the boss at the end that it doesn't even count as a speedrun anymore. Can you avoid elites and complete the rift by killing trash most of the time? Unlikely, but possible. Can't avoid the boss at the end, though...

 

At the end of the day, there are two lessons I've learned from all this: first, don't trust guides blindly, no matter who posted them. Second, read the comments before investing that much time in something that may or may not work.

 

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Guest Yoyoy

LoN Bombardment is way quicker and faster to get, you dont need specific ancients for a beginning, anything would work.

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Guest maniac.7

Some additions to my last post:

 

#1: The Gem Wreath of the Lightning is bugged. The damage dealt is negligible (no matter which level) and the L25 property (+25% movement speed) does not work at all.

So don't upgrade that gem until this bug is fixed!

Has been fixed as of Jan 27 2016. Tested it - movement speed is increased.

I guess, upgrading to L25 is worth it now.

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Guest Remedin

LoN Bombardment is way quicker and faster to get, you dont need specific ancients for a beginning, anything would work.

yes thats right - tried this yesterday

 

but with condemn you can farm absolutely brain afk ^^

could't use a ancient weapon in my condem build because of the lack of ramaldins gift but when i find it i will try out the T10 performance again. wit non ancient weapon i was able to farm T7 (and maybe T8) REALY fast!

 

T10 was also possible with goldwrap - but it was not that fast - about 7 minutes till rift guardian...

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Guest GetSomeNuts

I really enjoy this build, however, both Goldwrap and Indestructible passive feel mandatory to me unless you've got exceptionally well rolled gear and/or Paragon >1000

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Guest Traegan

I have found it best to run with Nemesis bracers and Goldwrap in the cube, and skipping warzechian. That gives much better survivability. Then you can run with the Embodiment + wings of angels runes to make up for the speed lost with warzechian. Wings is up for 10 out of 13 seconds with the 56% CDR.

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Guest Guest

This sucks. I kept farming to get this "T-10 speedfarming build" and it's so darn squishy.

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Guest Guest

2.4.1

Completely useless for TX rift runs, I get 2 shotted by anything. Comparing to Invoker build with my character that can tank 3 elite packs without dropping health.

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