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A post over on the Overwatch forums has stirred up a huge amount of controversy, as well as disbelief, in the Overwatch community. Check out what's been happening with our favourite British Overwatch member!

 

The post was aimed at one of the poses for Tracer: "Over the shoulder". It seems the user in question believed that the pose sexualised Tracer to the extent that her young daughter, who looks up to Tracer and watches the Recall trailer every day, could no longer idolise this great character. You can read the full post here.

 

Our beloved Game Director responded at lightning speed, but for once, it may not have been the right thing to do. He stated that the pose will be replaced and apologised for having it in the game. You can check out his response here.

 

As always with these things, there was some backlash against this response, but it seems to be a rather overwhelming one. A petition is up on the Reddit forums asking for the pose to be kept in the game, with many good reasons being given as to why it should be there. The most overwhelmingly agreed upon is that, if a child is too young to see what is being considered as a sexual pose, then perhaps they are too young to be playing the game. There are numerous warnings about mature content within the game, as well as many other heroes that have far more "sexual" attributes.

 

I would thoroughly recommend reading through this mother's response to the drama over on the forums if you're hoping to get involved in the discussion. It shows the perspective of another mother who takes the opposing stance from the original post.

 

If you're looking for a slightly more light-hearted take on the matter, check out TotalBiscuit's satirical video on the topic.

 

What do you think? Should the pose be removed?

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Ban yoga! 

 

Hell, I think some of the men in Overwatch are too fit and muscular. I want everyone to be disproportionately ugly. 

 

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Ban yoga! 

 

Hell, I think some of the men in Overwatch are too fit and muscular. I want everyone to be disproportionately ugly. 

 

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Seems like a well thought out and fairly innocuous complaint where they're saying "Could you please not overtly sexualize this one female character?"

 

Blizzard thought it was a fair request.

 

Cue lots of Internet ranting and demands that all female characters be overtly sexualized from now until the end of time because [insert ill-thought out patricarhical and misogynist dogma here].

 

 

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Absolutely NOT! I completely agree with the idea that if something in a game can be considered too sexual, that child shouldn't be playing that game. On one hand, kudos to mom for paying attention to her child's interest and making sure her child doesn't play anything inappropriate. But on the other hand, I don't think game designers should have to change anything about their game to fit the demands of the parents. 

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Seems like a well thought out and fairly innocuous complaint where they're saying "Could you please not overtly sexualize this one female character?"

 

Blizzard thought it was a fair request.

 

Cue lots of Internet ranting and demands that all female characters be overtly sexualized from now until the end of time because [insert ill-thought out patricarhical and misogynist dogma here].

 

This specific pose is found on multiple other characters, even with similar names. It looks like it was a template that was plastered onto Tracer to give her another pose. If it isn't an issue with Symmetra and Widowmaker, why is it with Tracer? I understand the argument of it not fitting the character, but how are we saying that it fits Symmetra's character? Why is it OK for D.va to be lying on her robot with her chest sticking out? Why is it OK for Zarya to have her pose with her crotch thrust out?

 

I could understand if she was specifically making some form of sexual gesture, but Tracer is very simply looking over her shoulder. Her butt will be there regardless, it's part of her model. When you run past her, when you fight her, when you look at her in any other pose, she still has a butt.

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Hey mom, how about you learn to fucking read and realize the game is RATED T FOR TEEN.  11 year olds are having sex these days are you honestly that stupid that you think this is an issue?  If your kid is below the rating then they shouldn't be playing games marketed for teenagers or adults in the first place.  People like you are what's ruining the world's entertainment with making everything politically correct.  Go watch desperate housewives and leave our games alone. 

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Interesting. To a point, I can understand the mothers prospective. Children -are- very easily influenced. So yes, they  could easily pick up on habits of their hero.

But... Lets be real here. To me that pose, in the grand scheme of things, seems rather mild in the 'sexual' department. Matter of fact, I'm trying to wrap my mind around how a child, who would appear to have a mother who seemingly shelters them from everything remotely sexual, could possibly even see it as sexual. Like... how does the child even know what sexual is? Let alone acknowledge what a sexual pose looks like?

On top of that. We're playing a game. Where people are locked in an eternal loop of murdering one another. So... It's not okay for her to kinda sorta be in a sassy mild sexual pose, but it's okay for her to run around filling people full of lead... killing them.... killing them dead....

Until they respawn. That's how real life works too, right?

Kiiiiiiiiiinda seems priorities are a little mixed up here.

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Interesting. To a point, I can understand the mothers prospective. Children -are- very easily influenced. So yes, they  could easily pick up on habits of their hero.

But... Lets be real here. To me that pose, in the grand scheme of things, seems rather mild in the 'sexual' department. Matter of fact, I'm trying to wrap my mind around how a child, who would appear to have a mother who seemingly shelters them from everything remotely sexual, could possibly even see it as sexual. Like... how does the child even know what sexual is? Let alone acknowledge what a sexual pose looks like?

On top of that. We're playing a game. Where people are locked in an eternal loop of murdering one another. So... It's not okay for her to kinda sorta be in a sassy mild sexual pose, but it's okay for her to run around filling people full of lead... killing them.... killing them dead....

Until they respawn. That's how real life works too, right?

Kiiiiiiiiiinda seems priorities are a little mixed up here.

 

 

 

 

 

game is rated T not rated E aka if ur kid is too immature to play a T rated game before they are a T then dont let them play it simple

 

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Ban yoga! 

 

Hell, I think some of the men in Overwatch are too fit and muscular. I want everyone to be disproportionately ugly. 

 

kappa 

 

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Address the root of these problems! #BanSquats

 

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game is rated T not rated E aka if ur kid is too immature to play a T rated game before they are a T then dont let them play it simple

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Oh please that butt of hers aint even that great anyway.

 

The pose really doesn´t strike me as being overly sexualized anyway. The spread legs might be what´s giving that illusion to some people now that I think about it. Close em and I suppose it´d be less suggestive /shrug

 

Tis a shame though that people are so anxious about the human body still. Killing people is all fine and dandy it would seem but even the slightest appearance  or perception of booties and boobies on a character is apparently enough for some people to see red.

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Oh please that butt of hers aint even that great anyway.

 

The pose really doesn´t strike me as being overly sexualized anyway. The spread legs might be what´s giving that illusion to some people now that I think about it. Close em and I suppose it´d be less suggestive /shrug

 

Tis a shame though that people are so anxious about the human body still. Killing people is all fine and dandy it would seem but even the slightest appearance  or perception of booties and boobies on a character is apparently enough for some people to see red.

Exaaaaaaaactly.

Whelp, hopefully the kid never does a google image search of their hero. They'll learn all kinds of things Mother dearest doesn't like.

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In short, it's just a biased take on the image of ONE character from ONE person. There could be hype, could be an outcry and if public says "yeah Tracer is way too oversexualised fix it PLEASE" Blizzard can justify actions. Because it would probably be healthier for the game design. And everybody win.

But it's not like that in this case. The fact character's image is something is defined by public, and frankly, we - the public - don't think so, right?

I mean, she is a girl. In a latex bodysuit. She is supposed to be like that.

I'd focus on actual game stuff if I was Blizzard, y'know. Sent some beta keys, patched some balance, worked with hardware so previous generation-PCs can run it.

But I'm not Blizzard, so let's durdle with ONE person that's not Ok with your game for no adequate reason.

If we talk the problem deeper, overall tendency of female characters' sexualisation may sometimes be present, but Overwatch and Blizzard games in general are not crossing my personal line.

There were elves in combat bras around me since I was 6. I grew up and it did not affect me in any harmful way - I oppose sexualisation, not consume or enforce it even though I am a supposed "target" of it. There are special products that can provide you enough for your interests, after all, don't mix-and-match.

I can't speak on the behalf of female community, but as a guy, I have no problem with girls looking good in my games up until wearing an armor that is practically useless thanks to open stomach or legs becomes normal. It just makes no freaking sense.

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But... Lets be real here. To me that pose, in the grand scheme of things, seems rather mild in the 'sexual' department. Matter of fact, I'm trying to wrap my mind around how a child, who would appear to have a mother who seemingly shelters them from everything remotely sexual, could possibly even see it as sexual. Like... how does the child even know what sexual is? Let alone acknowledge what a sexual pose looks like?

 

I feel like this is key to be honest. That pose is only really sexual if you're specifically looking in a sexual way, if that makes sense. Also, game is rated T for a reason.

 

Oh please that butt of hers aint even that great anyway.

 

The pose really doesn´t strike me as being overly sexualized anyway. The spread legs might be what´s giving that illusion to some people now that I think about it. Close em and I suppose it´d be less suggestive /shrug

 

Tis a shame though that people are so anxious about the human body still. Killing people is all fine and dandy it would seem but even the slightest appearance  or perception of booties and boobies on a character is apparently enough for some people to see red.

 

Key point of discussion right here. Her butt just AINT that great. Thing is, if you compare her pose to quite a few others (Symmetra, Widowmaker), it really doesn't seem that out of place.

 

Yeah, I think I said this a few times on Twitter. I don't understand why the butt of Tracer matters when she is standing next to a guy in victory who, 20 seconds ago, got play of the game where he slaughters 5 people with a hammer and crushes one of them against a wall.

 

I mean, she is a girl. In a latex bodysuit. She is supposed to be like that.

 

 

I think Michele Morrow brought this up on Twitter. Someone called out Blizzard on the attire and she rightly said that there are plenty of runners on the streets, which, judging by her attire, Tracer is a sprinter of sorts, and we seem to accept that fine. Are we meant to completely change her skin? Have we forgotten the Widowmaker skin where you can very clearly see up her skirt? The bare legs of Symmetra?

 

The game has been in beta for a long time now and this is the first complaint I have heard about that pose. 

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If this kid thinks the pose is sexual then don't take him to the beach! Lots of the same poses there lol, then there is no one to look up for anymore...

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Cue lots of Internet ranting and demands that all female characters be overtly sexualized from now until the end of time because [insert ill-thought out patricarhical and misogynist dogma here].

 

It's a shot from behind of her looking over her shoulder. She's not bending over. She's not sticking her ass out. Her back isn't arched to show off said butt. There's nothing overtly sexual about except that it shows her butt, which is visible because she's in futuristic tights. I personally didn't read it as overtly sexual. Plus, this is an optional pose. You can change it if you don't like it.

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Honestly its crap like this that has made me stop playing the beta , i have already preordered the game , but depending on the state of t he game during the open beta ..i will get a refund, as it stands its a great game and loads of fun , but Blizz is giving in to too many people who just want to whine and not play a game the way blizz designed it to be played.

 

Honeslty, people just need to grow the frak up , its an adult character in an adult/teen game, who honesty is not being sexualized any worse than any chick you see on almost any tv show  or any chick you see running /walk in public now days.

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Honeslty, people just need to grow the frak up , its an adult character in an adult/teen game, who honesty is not being sexualized any worse than any chick you see on almost any tv show  or any chick you see running /walk in public now days.

I know right? Some celebrities are cute and funny when they perform shows for children and teenagers (not gonna mention any names **cough** Ariana Grande **cough**) and no one is removing them from Music or Movie business, but Tracer's pose is sexualized...

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Kinda reminds me of Eminem's song, The Real Slim Shady, I'm not a fan of eminem but he killed it...

 

Explicit Centent :

Sometimes, I wanna get on TV and just let loose, but can't

But it's cool for Tom Green to hump a dead moose

"My bum is on your lips, my bum is on your lips"

And if I'm lucky, you might just give it a little kiss
And that's the message that we deliver to little kids
And expect them not to know what a woman's clitoris is

 

The discovery channel, MTV is not sexualized but Tracer's pose is.

The mom should start posting on some shows' forums instead.

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I have no words to describe this BS Blizzard is doing by caving in for one person. There's so much violence happening in Overwatch that Tracer's pose is the least of their problems if we really put it this way. I mean, so many websites have put this story up on their news panels that it's actually becoming some sort of phenomenon. Even TotalBiscuit made a satirical video about it, that's how funny and idiotic this thing is.

Why don't they remove all the Blood Elf Females then from WoW? Or all the Draenei Females? Once you get their gear off it becomes some sort of cheap softcore erotic movie.

 

L.E.: To answer the question: No they shouldn't remove the pose.

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      Changed the name of Junkrat’s Buccaneer skin to Bilgerat Added under attack voice lines for Zenyatta, Lúcio, and Moria All Overwatch League skins now include the name of the team’s city or state Looking for Group
      Settings will be saved after changing filters on the Looking for Group browse screen Hero Gallery
      Added a What’s New option that displays new unlockable content HERO UPDATES
      General
      Some ultimate abilities now restore ammunition after completion for some heroes Abilities affected: Genji’s Dragonblade, Junkrat’s RIP-Tire, Pharah’s Barrage, Roadhog’s Whole Hog, and Zenyatta’s Transcendence, Winston’s Primal Rage Developer Comments:The change removes the need to immediately reload after a long duration ultimate.
      Ana
      Nano Boost Now also instantly heals the target for 300 health Range increased from 30 to 40 meters Developer Comments: These changes help Ana’s Nano Boost be usable in more situations. Previously it was almost entirely used to combo with other allies’ ultimates, just before they use them. With this change Nano Boost can now alternatively be used to save an ally from near death in the middle of a big fight.
      Brigitte
      Shield Bash Cooldown increased from 6 to 7 seconds Repair Pack An option to control Brigitte’s Repair Pack targeting sensitivity has been added under Options > Controls > Brigitte Developer Comments: Brigitte’s Shield Bash is one of her strongest abilities, and its short cooldown can make it difficult to play against. Slightly increasing its cooldown will give her opponents more opportunity to play around it. We’ve also added an option to control Brigitte’s Repair Pack targeting sensitivity which will allow players to reduce the width of the search angle for the ability. This is useful for trying to target specific allies in the middle of a fight at the cost of making it a bit harder to target allies in general.
      Doomfist
      Rocket Punch No longer impacts Symmetra’s teleporter Now destroys Symmetra’s sentry turrets without stopping his movement Developer Comments: These changes are just quality of life improvements for how Doomfist interacts with Symmetra’s placed objects.
      Hanzo
      Lunge Cooldown increased from 4 to 5 seconds Developer Comments: Hanzo’s Lunge ability allows him to be a bit too evasive, so we’re increasing the cooldown to make him easier to catch.
      Lúcio
      Crossfade Aura radius increase from 10 to 12 meters Sound Barrier Temporary shields granted increased from 500 to 750 Developer Comments: Increasing the amount of shield health gained from Lúcio’s Sound Barrier should make it more effective against incoming burst damage. As part of his last rework, Crossfade’s radius was heavily reduced, but its potency was increased to compensate. While the change was better for him overall, the radius was small enough that it was often difficult to keep his allies in range during a fight, even if they felt reasonably close together. The increased radius should help in these situations.
      Mercy
      Caduceus Staff Healing beam reduced from 60 healing per second to 50 healing per second Developer Comments: Mercy’s previous healing output made her nearly irreplaceable in any team composition. Even after this change she will still be able to deliver more healing over the course of a match than any other support hero, but it should allow for other healers to be more viable.
      Moira
      Biotic Grasp Passive energy regeneration rate increased from 2 per second to 2.4 per second Developer Comments: This change should help Moira in situations where there are no enemies within reach but your team still requires a lot of healing. She will still need to drain enemies to be fully effective, but this just helps her a bit in the rare cases where there is an extended long-range fight that she can’t reasonably take part in.
      Reinhardt
      Barrier Field Decorative insignia no longer protrudes from the shield’s surface Developer Comments: By smoothing out Reinhardt’s Barrier Field, he now will be able to consistently block enemy abilities and projectiles that could sometimes unintentionally sneak through (e.g. Junkrat’s grenades).
      Sombra
      General Reduced the size of Sombra’s head hit volume Developer Comments: The head changes are mostly a bug fix, as her head hit volume was abnormally large, especially from behind. Previously if you fired at her from behind near her upper spine, you could land a head shot. Now her head volume is much more accurate.
      Symmetra
      Photon Projector Primary fire range increased from 10 to 12 Developer Comments: Symmetra’s primary fire has huge damage potential but it is too difficult to charge because of its low range and slow charge rate. We’re increasing the range to see how it plays out, giving her more opportunities to use it, especially against enemy barriers.
      Widowmaker
      Grappling Hook Cooldown increased from 8 seconds to 10 seconds Developer Comments: The increased cooldown will slightly reduce the frequency that Widowmaker can reposition herself. This allows her to be threatened more easily by agile enemy heroes such as Winston and Genji.
      Zarya
      Energy Drain rate reduced from 2 energy per second to 1.6 energy per second Graviton Surge Radius reduced from 8 to 6 meters Developer Comments: The smaller radius on Graviton Surge makes it more reasonable for her enemies to try countering it by staying spread out, as well as putting more focus on Zarya to position the ultimate correctly to impact the most players possible. However, the intent of these changes isn’t to lessen Zarya’s overall power significantly so we’re reducing her energy drain rate, which should keep her energy higher on average resulting in more damage and quicker ultimate charge times. Overall, this takes some power out of her ultimate and distributes it else ware to add more counter play against her.
      GAME BROWSER AND CUSTOM GAMES
      Heroes
      Brigitte’s Repair Pack now has a minimum cooldown time of 1.5 seconds regardless of custom game settings BUG FIXES
      General
      Fixed a bug that displayed an inaccurate AFK countdown timer before removing players from a match if they were flagged as AFK more than once Fixed a bug that caused the player camera to display an odd location before switching to the first-person view of the selected hero after Assemble Your Team phase ends AI
      Fixed a bug that caused Torbjörn bot to fire his gun endlessly if his turret is teleported by a Symmetra player Competitive Play
      Fixed a bug that could cause players to lose an endorsement level if they exited before a match completes, but after the return timer for a leaving player has expired Heroes
      Brigitte
      Fixed a bug that allowed projectiles and splash damage to penetrate Brigitte’s Barrier Shield while dashing with the ability D.Va
      Fixed a bug that caused D.Va’s Light Gun to disappear if Roadhog used Chain Hook on her while she used an emote Genji
      Fixed a visual issue that prevented Genji’s Shuriken ammunition from displaying the correct number briefly after activating Dragonblade Fixed a bug that caused Genji’s arms to detach from his body if he looked straight down a wall while climbing over edges Hanzo
      Fixed a bug that caused Hanzo’s arms to detach from his body if he looked straight down a wall while climbing over edges Junkrat
      Fixed a bug that refilled Junkrat’s ammo if RIP-Tire failed to cast Fixed a bug that refilled Junkrat's ammo if he attempted to use RIP-Tire while airborne Lúcio
      Fixed a bug that allowed Lúcio to gain ultimate charge while Sound Barrier was active if he got hacked Orisa
      Fixed a bug that caused the health bar on Orisa’s Protective Barrier to disappear when she used Supercharger Reinhardt
      Fixed a bug that prevented cracks from appearing on Reinhardt’s Overwatch League Away skins when his Barrier Field takes damage Roadhog
      Fixed a bug that prevented Roadhog’s Chain Hook from retracting to his hand if he is interrupted mid-cast Sombra
      Fixed a bug that caused Sombra’s visual effects to display darker than intended Fixed a bug that allowed Sombra to destroy her Translocator after teleporting to it Fixed a bug that caused Sombra’s Translocator to bleed when struck by enemy players Tracer
      Fixed a bug that caused Tracer’s Pulse Bombs to stick onto the wrong side of shields when the targeted enemy moved quickly Wrecking Ball
      Fixed a bug that prevented Wrecking Ball from using sprays when in Roll form Fixed a bug that allowed Piledriver to displace Mei while she is in Cryo-freeze Zarya
      Fixed a bug that caused Zarya’s Graviton Surge visual effects to extend beyond the ability’s radius Hero Gallery
      Fixed a bug that prevented rotating hero models while viewed in the Hero Gallery when equipped with Overwatch League skins Fixed a bug that prevented the Communication Wheel from functioning when equipping a spray, voice line, or emote from a Loot Box Looking for Group
      Fixed a bug that caused some groups to be unable to queue for a game mode Maps
      Eichenwalde
      Fixed a bug that caused Eichenwalde’s castle gate to falls into the ground when destroyed by the payload  
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