Blainie

Blizzard Removing Alpha Access As Punishment

Sign in to follow this  

13 posts in this topic

20034-blizzard-removing-alpha-access-as-

After a feedback thread escalated last night, it seems Blizzard have punished those that acted out on the forums. Both Legion and Overwatch access has been removed for many of those that took part in the "memestorm"!


The thread in question popped up after there were a number of stability issues with the Alpha servers. Players couldn't log in to test the raids that were scheduled, namely the first Mythic bosses to open for testing.

It quickly escalated into personal insults and threats, a barrage of memes and "jokes" spanning topics such as 9/11 and terrorism. It seems Blizzard have since revoked the access of these players to the Legion Alpha and Overwatch Beta for an undisclosed period of time. 

While it's understandable that people take time out to prepare for these events, access to the Alpha is still a privilege. One of the MVPs on the US realms summed it up perfectly:
 

Alpha access is a privilege not a right. Alphas by nature are NOT stable and will have issues. Sure, it sucks to set apart time to test and have it not work out. However, resorting to the trolling and nonsense that happened there is not ok. It was not harmless and demonstrated that some people really don't understand what the purpose of an Alpha is or how to provide polite and constructive feedback. Sure, you are free to act like that, but others don't have to put up with you. Sometimes people simply need to deal with the consequences of their actions.
 
(source)

 

We also saw a blue post from Watcher apologising for the problems over the raid testing night.

 

Blizzard Icon Watcher on the Raid Tests

 

Obviously we've been experiencing significant technical issues. We've been trying to diagnose them, but they're beyond the scope of anything that can be addressed in the short-term (infrastructure/back-end issues, as opposed to just a simple code bug that can be fixed). As such, we're canceling today's tests. They'll be rescheduled.
 
I realize it's frustrating to carve time out of your schedule and then be unable to actually play. If there were anything we could do to prevent this, we would, but an alpha/beta environment is inherently less stable and polished because of how things are changing constantly, both in obvious player-facing ways but also in terms of behind-the-scenes tech. I apologize, but I honestly can't say that it won't happen again - it might. The disclaimers that accompany each raid testing announcement aren't just empty words.
 
 

So, what do you think? Was the punishment fair? Should it have been more, or less, severe?

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I believe Blizzard did the right thing, but honestly, I had fun reading those meme comments. 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think they went a little too far here, honestly.  Blizzards own ToC states that trolling is punishable by a forum ban based on severity.

 

 


Spamming or Trolling

This category includes:

  • Excessively communicating the same phrase, similar phrases, or pure gibberish

  • Creating threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums

  • Causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, insulting other posters

  • Making non-constructive posts

  • Abusing the Reported Post feature by sending false alarms or nonsensical messages

  • Numbering a thread, IBTL, TLDR, or any other fad statements


If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:

  • Be given a temporary or permanent ban from the forums, depending upon severity

 

 

Removal of access goes way beyond a forum ban.  Not only that, but the way WatcherDev responded on twitter was not very, err, appropriate for his position.  

 

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think they went a little too far here, honestly.  Blizzards own ToC states that trolling is punishable by a forum ban based on severity.

 

 

Spamming or Trolling

This category includes:

  •  
  • Excessively communicating the same phrase, similar phrases, or pure gibberish
  •  
  • Creating threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums
  •  
  • Causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, insulting other posters
  •  
  • Making non-constructive posts
  •  
  • Abusing the Reported Post feature by sending false alarms or nonsensical messages
  •  
  • Numbering a thread, IBTL, TLDR, or any other fad statements
  •  

If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:

  •  
  • Be given a temporary or permanent ban from the forums, depending upon severity
  •  

 

 

Removal of access goes way beyond a forum ban.  Not only that, but the way WatcherDev responded on twitter was not very, err, appropriate for his position.  

 

Do you think a forum ban would work in this situation? The whole point of having Alpha access is to test and give feedback. Without access to the forums to give feedback, what's the point of them testing?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think they went a little too far here, honestly.  Blizzards own ToC states that trolling is punishable by a forum ban based on severity.

 

 

Spamming or Trolling

This category includes:

  •  
  • Excessively communicating the same phrase, similar phrases, or pure gibberish
  •  
  • Creating threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums
  •  
  • Causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, insulting other posters
  •  
  • Making non-constructive posts
  •  
  • Abusing the Reported Post feature by sending false alarms or nonsensical messages
  •  
  • Numbering a thread, IBTL, TLDR, or any other fad statements
  •  

If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:

  •  
  • Be given a temporary or permanent ban from the forums, depending upon severity
  •  

 

 

Removal of access goes way beyond a forum ban.  Not only that, but the way WatcherDev responded on twitter was not very, err, appropriate for his position.  

They're not paying for alpha or beta access. If they'd been banned from WoW altogether I could see your point. But they were granted a privilege, and showed they had no real grasp of what they were supposed to be doing with it. Therefore, they lost it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They could give me an alpha key. They know I would appreciate it, and enjoy helping them out anyway I can. But oh well ill be good and wait for the beta. Blizzard love...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They could give me an alpha key. They know I would appreciate it, and enjoy helping them out anyway I can. But oh well ill be good and wait for the beta. Blizzard love...

I second this motion.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bans were justified. You should see it as an honor that a company trusts you to provide feedback on whatever you think that needs to be changed or improved. But then again blizzard stop using the alpha as a promotion tool, get players in that are willing to test the content properly and won't act like adhd kiddies when something bothers them.

 

I think Blizzard should take a page out of Microsoft testing, and add a questionnaire with the beta testing signup where you can motivate yourself and them, on why you should get early testing access.

I'll gladly test 10 hours per day and provide feedback so the issues do not present on live and improve my own and everyone else's gaming experience.

Edited by Hikashuri

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think the way these players have behaved is disgusting. Talking about 9/11 amongst other topics is despicable. Innocent people lost their lives in that tragedy and to this day the pain is still raw.

I honestly think Blizzard have been too soft with said players, If it was up to me they would have been given a lifetime ban. In my honest opinion even that really isn't enough. They should be prosecuted for what they have written. It wouldn't be the first time someone has been prosecuted for trolling!!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Starym

       
      Another batch of hotfixes only 2 days after the last, this time we get some small Hunter tweaks, some apparently crucial Throne of Thunder fixes and the big news for your backpack - Pantheon's Blessing's now stack!
      December 14 (source)
      Classes
      Hunter [Hotfix in testing] Tame Beast will no longer trigger trinket procs, such as Caged Horror. Dungeons and Raids
      Throne of Thunder Jin’rokh the Breaker Resolved an issue that caused Jin'rokh's Focused Lightning to move faster than intended. Antorus, The Burning Throne Hounds of Sargeras Resolved an issue that could cause Consuming Sphere to inflict periodic damage more rapidly than intended. Items
      Pantheon's Blessing will now stack. Previous patch 7.3.2 hotfixes:
      December 12 December 6 December 5 December 1 November 21
    • By Starym

       
      Featuring all the articles related to the Tier 21 raid race.
      This is the hub for the Antorus: the Burning Throne Mythic progress coverage, featuring all the articles related to the race.
      Antorus M Race Day 8: WF Stats, Nerdscreams and More - Legion endboss stats, Argus stealth hotfixes, Exorsus Aggramar video and more!
      Mythic Argus World First Kill by Method - Method close out the raid and end up on top at the start of the second reset.
      Antorus M Race Day 7: Aggramar WF Video - 19 guilds now progressing on Argus and Method and Limit share their Aggramar kill videos.
      Antorus M Race Day 6: Argus Mythic Footage - Style War stream Argus progress and we get to see the Mythic phase, 9 guilds on Argus now and Sco explains why Antorus isn't clear yet.
      Antorus M Race Day 3: Exorsus 10/11, Coven Video - Some hotfix troubles slow Exorsus down but they still catch up, we get another WF video and Asia guilds are back in the overall top 5.
      Antorus M Progress Day 2: Only Argus Left - Method are back on top, there's only 1 boss remaining and we get WF kill videos up to 8/11.
      Antorus M Progress Day 1: 9 Down 2 to Go - Limit dominate day one and we see all but 2 bosses die.
      Antorus Mythic Progress + History of WF Stats - A primer for the race and a rundown of old World Firsts by faction.
    • By Starym

       
      Today we have some nerdscreams and the raid setup from Method's Argus kill, stealth hotfixes for the encounter, overall endboss stats for all of Legion as well as the Exorsus World 2nd Aggramar kill video.
      The race to World First ended today as Method continued their recent dominance of Legion's raids and took down the probably final boss of the expansion, a mere 8 days after it was released (or 7 days after they started progress). We've already covered the WF itself, but there have been plenty of new stats coming after the kill, including the wipe count and raid setup. But first let's take a look/listen to the nerdscreams as the boss went down, somewhat less enthusiastic than usual I'd have to say:

      Method also shared what stealth hotfixes happened while they were progressing on the final boss, not mentioned in any official notes:
      We then have the raid composition for the kill itself, featuring 12 different classes including 3 rouges, 3 mages and 2 hunters:

      And on to the wipe count, it took 320 failed attempts to get the world soul down as we already mentioned, and here's a comparison table for all the Legion endbosses, including the time they stayed alive for:
      Raid / Boss WF Guild Wipe Count Time to kill (from region reset) Time to kill (from previous boss)  The Emerald Nightmare
      Xavius  
      Exorsus 19 17h40min
      +16h from US launch 2h43min  Trial of Valor
      Helya
       Method 223 2 days 7h
      +16h from US launch 2 days 1h  The Nighthold
      Gul'dan  
      Exorsus 247 11 days 6h
      +16h from US launch 4 days 22h The Tomb of Sargeras
      Kil'jaeden
       Method 654 19 days 5h
      +16h from US launch 11 days 19h  Antorus: the Burning Throne
      Argus the Unmaker
       Method 320 7 days 8h
      +16h from US launch 6 days 14h And finally, we also got to see Exorsus World 2nd Aggramar kill video:
      The race itself isn't quite over yet, as only Method have managed to end the Unmaker and finish up Antorus, and so the silver is still up in the air. Will Exorsus secure their expected second place finish or will the Asia guilds climb further up in this tier? Limit has also had the reset for two days now and seeing how crucial the gear from the 2nd clear is they still have quite the head start over Style War and Alpha. And let's not forget current 4th place holders Memento, who also might make it an all EU top 3. There are quite a few combinations that are open, so keep following Method.gg's live coverage to find out how it all shakes out, or check back in here when some more kills happen.

    • By Starym

       
      There's a new PTR build up, bringing with it Ulduar Timewalking and an even larger focus on the new 1-100 level scaling mechanics. Blizzard are asking for help in testing the questlines in some specific zones as well, so get on there and test!
      Build 25700 (source)
      This week, we’ve implemented a new build that primarily brings bugfixes to the PTR. Our biggest focus for testing remains the new level 1-100 zone and dungeon scaling we’re introducing with 7.3.5. This is an extensive change to how loot, quests, and creatures work in the open world, so we continue to look for as much feedback as we can get about how things are working out.
      Thank you so much for all of the feedback you’ve provided so far on leveling in Azeroth. We hope you keep the feedback coming, and we’d like to ask you to especially focus some of your testing on the questlines in these specific zones:
       Blade's Edge Mountains
       Duskwood
       Hellfire Peninsula
       Icecrown
       Kun-Lai Summit
       Nagrand
       Storm Peaks
       Terokkar Forest
       Vashj'ir
       Wetlands
      Feedback on the difficulty, pacing, and most importantly, any bugs you might find while completing quests in the above zones would be most helpful. Please post your level scaling feedback here.
      We now have Ulduar Timewalking available for testing, and it should be available for the next four days or so. Please post Ulduar Timewalking feedback here.
      Also, a heads up—We’re planning a scheduled playtest of the new Seething Shore PvP Battleground. Get ready to Play With The Blues on the PTR on Tuesday, December 19 from 2:00 – 4:00 p.m. PST. The Seething Shore is a 10v10 race to gather Azerite on an island near Silithus, and we hope you’ll be able to join us there and test it thoroughly on Tuesday.
      As always, thank you very much for participating in the PTR!
      In case you need more info on what's coming with Patch 7.3.5, you can check out our ongoing coverage:
      Alleria & Turalyon Return to Azeroth Allied Races Heritage Armor Allied Races Mounts in Battle for Azeroth Call of the Scarab Micro-Holiday Mounts Faction Embassies in Patch 7.3.5 Highmountain Tauren Druid Forms in Battle for Azeroth Development Notes: Build 25600 Seething Shore Battleground Preview New Zones in Patch 7.3.5 Uninstanced Version of the Nighthold (Allied Races Hub for the Nightborne) Zone Scaling & Zone Level Caps in Patch 7.3.5
    • By Stan

      Vicious War Fox is a new PvP mount that was datamined back in Patch 7.3. The mount has been added to PvP vendors in Patch 7.3.5.
      Vicious Saddle is rewarded upon winning 100 Arena (3v3) or 40 Rated Battlegrounds in a PvP Season.
      (Dominant Combatant / Dominant Combatant)
      Alliance
      Vicious War Fox can be purchased for 1 Vicious Saddle from Necrolord Sipe in Stormwind.

      Horde
      Vicious War Fox can be purchased for 1 Vicious Saddle from Deathguard Netharian in Orgrimmar.

      Mount Special

       
      Patch 7.3.5 Coverage
      Alleria & Turalyon Return to Azeroth Allied Races Heritage Armor Allied Races Mounts in Battle for Azeroth Call of the Scarab Micro-Holiday Mounts Faction Embassies in Patch 7.3.5 Highmountain Tauren Druid Forms in Battle for Azeroth Development Notes: Build 25600 Seething Shore Battleground Preview New Zones in Patch 7.3.5 Uninstanced Version of the Nighthold (Allied Races Hub for the Nightborne) Zone Scaling & Zone Level Caps in Patch 7.3.5