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19 hours ago, Darkovan said:

I can find some reliable simcraft for legion frost DK's?

Yes, nowhere :)

The tuning and talents are being worked on right now. Each week everything is under heavy scrutiny. This week alone we saw several changes to the talent "trees" and final numbers are far from chosen. So, nothing is really reliable at all right now, and can and will change at the drop of the hat.

Now that being said, I can tell you from beta theorycrafting, that DK dps is in a really good place. Both unholy and frost as very strong right now. I hesitate to post though because if blizz learns DKs are doing good dps we will get nerfed to oblivion XD. So, once we get later in the summer, and numbers become "more" concrete, you will likely see some good tools pop up. Right now though, everything is too subjective. So just hold tight, christmas will come soon :)

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I think the latest build just changed the teirs the various talents were on...i just don't want to go into pre-patch blind.

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I found that a few days ago as well and noticed it was handling a few things differently in the simulator then it was in game, i posted on their forums about it and they told me that they were waiting to see which of the changes went live or not.

I didn't spend to much time going through it but a few things stood out.

Razor Ice - when on mainhand its not applying on obliterate offhand or frost strike offhand or mainhand (changes the value of shattering strikes) and it is on ptr and beta.

Killing machine - is criting on offhand hits at the same rate as mainhand on beta and ptr its not.

Remoreless winter and Gladical Advance are criting at sheet crit rates, on ptr and beta they have 5% crit only and always.

There is possibly other things but i stoped at that point and will wait till its updated :)

 

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3 hours ago, Darkovan said:

I found that a few days ago as well and noticed it was handling a few things differently in the simulator then it was in game, i posted on their forums about it and they told me that they were waiting to see which of the changes went live or not.

I didn't spend to much time going through it but a few things stood out.

Razor Ice - when on mainhand its not applying on obliterate offhand or frost strike offhand or mainhand (changes the value of shattering strikes) and it is on ptr and beta.

Killing machine - is criting on offhand hits at the same rate as mainhand on beta and ptr its not.

Remoreless winter and Gladical Advance are criting at sheet crit rates, on ptr and beta they have 5% crit only and always.

There is possibly other things but i stoped at that point and will wait till its updated :)

 

yeah there are a couple things between ptr and beta that are wonky as well as what the values should be vs what they are. tuning.

let's pray though the tune hammer passes us by. currently dks are one of the highest tuned classes. really hoping the nerf hammer doesn't smack us, and we can be on top of the dps charts again for a change XD

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and actually a fun tidbit that im just putting here. with the ptr beta and sim tools there is some really interesting theory work out there. specifically there is an unholy build where you DO NOT use festering strike at all..... you ready that properly. a build that completely omits the usage of the boil mechanic and the craziest part is, it works. its incredibly strong and if factored in with legendary items is more competitive than some. it freaked me out but they had the raw numbers and in testing it played out. so there is certainly some fun stuff out there. this is my favorite time of an xpac when all the theory work is like the wild wild west.

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