Destruction Warlock 7.3

[Guest Demo warlock Bracers]

If im wearing demo bracer summ guard/infernal 30% dmg for 25 seconds, did they work as destruction?

[Valks 2,405]

15 minutes ago, Guest Demo warlock Bracers said:

If im wearing demo bracer summ guard/infernal 30% dmg for 25 seconds, did they work as destruction?

Yes, they will work for destro.

[Guest Leanka]

Is there a trinket priority established for us now? Or should it still be Plaguehive/Shock-baton?

[Guest Destro]

Love the guide <3 Please update to reflect the recent lock changes - Thanks! 

[Valks 2,405]

On 10/3/2016 at 3:20 AM, Guest Leanka said:

Is there a trinket priority established for us now? Or should it still be Plaguehive/Shock-baton?

There are 2 trinkets in the BiS list, Naraxas + Sinew. I will double check that this is up-to-date with Furty.

[Valks 2,405]

17 hours ago, Guest Destro said:

Love the guide <3 Please update to reflect the recent lock changes - Thanks! 

Will make sure to :)

[Guest Drykor]

ok so i need help i have 21% crit 24% haste and 59% mastery and i dont seem to be pulling what i should anyone care to chime in what the stat priority really should be cause askmrrobot says haste and mastery and ivy veins haste and crit, which one is it for everyone else

 

[Valks 2,405]

22 hours ago, Guest Drykor said:

ok so i need help i have 21% crit 24% haste and 59% mastery and i dont seem to be pulling what i should anyone care to chime in what the stat priority really should be cause askmrrobot says haste and mastery and ivy veins haste and crit, which one is it for everyone else

I can't really help with this without seeing a log, since it's most likely caused by player errors rather than gear. Please make a thread in the Warlock forum and post a log of your gameplay on either a dummy or a boss.

As for stat priority, it should be Haste > Crit.

[Guest Stat prio]

Well, is there a reason why no warlock I've looked who is playing on top goes over ~9k haste? There must be a reason why, maybe because pyrolyse will lose effectivity? If yes this guide need's a little update. 

[Guest Destrolock]

I have a question about choosing new gear, specifically rings and neck pieces. 

Since they removed primary stats from them, does ilevel matter as much or at all for these slots when choosing replacement gear?

I ask because a few times I've had higher ilvl gear equipped with less favourable secondary stats (I play destro 99% of the time) and had a piece of gear drop with lower ilvl but more favourable secondary stats, which, using your guides stat weights and napkin formula seems to be a dps increase. An example is I was lucky to get a titanforged 875 ring from a world boss, complete with Versatility and Mastery as it's secondary stats, but then did a mythic dungeon and got an 840 ring with Haste and Crit. Using the napkin formula the 840 ring gives me more dps (about 190 odd as it happens) than the 875 ring, but in my head I think I'd be stupid to equip an item 35 ilvls lower, dps increase or not.

So how important is ilvl when choosing gear for rings and neck? 

[Valks 2,405]

19 hours ago, Guest Stat prio said:

Well, is there a reason why no warlock I've looked who is playing on top goes over ~9k haste? There must be a reason why, maybe because pyrolyse will lose effectivity? If yes this guide need's a little update. 

Just taking a look at top 3 rankings for Nythendra:

• Rank 1 Destro: 12,179 Haste at time of writing (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Novicestar/advanced)
• Rank 2 Destro: 10,244 Haste at time of writing (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Morthos/simple)
• Rank 3 Destro: 7,283 Haste at time of writing (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ysondre/Xemio/simple)

Elerethe Renferal:

• Rank 1 Destro: 12,675 Haste at time of writing (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/Kazzak/Archvile/advanced)
• Rank 2 is committed because I can't speak Chinese, so I can't confirm what character achieved the rank.
• Rank 3 Destro: 11,669 Haste at time of writing (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/the-maelstrom/Rollinspells/simple)

I'm sure you can see what I am getting at here. There are top performers that have over 9k Haste, so it really is not a value that is particularly impactful.

[Valks 2,405]

1 hour ago, Guest Destrolock said:

I have a question about choosing new gear, specifically rings and neck pieces. 

Since they removed primary stats from them, does ilevel matter as much or at all for these slots when choosing replacement gear?

I ask because a few times I've had higher ilvl gear equipped with less favourable secondary stats (I play destro 99% of the time) and had a piece of gear drop with lower ilvl but more favourable secondary stats, which, using your guides stat weights and napkin formula seems to be a dps increase. An example is I was lucky to get a titanforged 875 ring from a world boss, complete with Versatility and Mastery as it's secondary stats, but then did a mythic dungeon and got an 840 ring with Haste and Crit. Using the napkin formula the 840 ring gives me more dps (about 190 odd as it happens) than the 875 ring, but in my head I think I'd be stupid to equip an item 35 ilvls lower, dps increase or not.

So how important is ilvl when choosing gear for rings and neck? 

Item level basically means nothing anymore due to a lack of primary stats on the pieces. Find the best stats possible, if you're unsure, either napkin or simcraft it. Generally though, stats are a lot more important than item level for necks/rings.

[Guest Destro Opener]

Hi just wanted to know if the Destro opener has deviated from what's listed in the guide since we start with 3 soul shards pre-combat compared to the 1 at launch, thanks!

[Valks 2,405]

On 10/13/2016 at 5:43 PM, Guest Destro Opener said:

Hi just wanted to know if the Destro opener has deviated from what's listed in the guide since we start with 3 soul shards pre-combat compared to the 1 at launch, thanks!

I believe it is as it should be, even after the update.

[Guest Bacon]

Why does Ask Mr Robot have Mastery ahead of Crit for stat priority? AM I missing something?

[Guest Flow]

Thank you for guide. Just 2 little questions: a) does rain of fire stack? b) why would you ever use channel demonfire over soul conduit? It feels just so underwhelming. 

[Guest guest1234]

in your guide you say cursed beartooth is the best in slot item for that neck place. i got the neck from xavius with haste and krit and its 10 gs points lower but reaches a much higher amount. thats like paradox because i used your stat prio. help pls.

[Furty 51]

On 10/26/2016 at 8:10 PM, Guest Bacon said:

Why does Ask Mr Robot have Mastery ahead of Crit for stat priority? AM I missing something?

I think AMR is missing something.

19 hours ago, Guest Flow said:

Thank you for guide. Just 2 little questions: a) does rain of fire stack? b) why would you ever use channel demonfire over soul conduit? It feels just so underwhelming. 

a) yes it does

b) demonfire is more DPS on a single target only

2 minutes ago, Guest guest1234 said:

in your guide you say cursed beartooth is the best in slot item for that neck place. i got the neck from xavius with haste and krit and its 10 gs points lower but reaches a much higher amount. thats like paradox because i used your stat prio. help pls.

That's a mistake, the Xavius neck is best. I'll fix it ASAP!

[Guest Markadelf]

With the doomguard buff is supremacy better than service?

[Guest BIS with Khara loot]

Hello, is the BIS list updated with the new Khara loot?

[Guest Rugina]

I sow that you aimed for most EN items, but i was wandering, what about if you get Chrono Shard from mythic+ in order to get Swarming Plaguehive ?

Instead of  Celestially Aligned Hood you get  Collar of Enclosure  and instead of Mantle of Perpetual Bloom you get Amice of the Unfurling Tempest. Ofc, both of them from myth+.

What you think about that ? wouldnt be better ? If not, why ?

[Guest Guest Slippy]

I have a question on the BiS List. It says the Ring from Dragons is BiS but isn´t the ring from Xavius better?

It gives me a higher value in Pawn. Or am i completely wrong on this one?

[Guest Blackabbadon]

Are there any changes regarding sup and service? I notice on sims they are using sup and on my sims ayo is our performing service now with the buff. 

[Guest Blackabbadon]

10 hours ago, Guest Blackabbadon said:

Are there any changes regarding sup and service? I notice on sims they are using sup and on my sims ayo is our performing service now with the buff. 

sorry for spelling i meant to say on my sims sup is out performing service .

[lockish 3]

is there a trinket list that takes into account kara trinkets?