tonitunes

Major DPS Drop since Legion

8 posts in this topic

My first post here, and I hate it being one of complaint but I don't know where else to turn for advice right now, and that's what I am looking for, advice, I'm not just whining ;).

I'm an experienced BM and MM hunter pre-legion. My dps was running on average 50K as per recount. I went with the talents suggested here and am using the stat rotation but my MM dps has dropped to like 25K, 

I tried running on my BM and while I did experience a bit of a DPS drop, I think I can contribute most of it to my being slower and not "automatically" going to the proper next spell, which I was so used to doing that I could do it almost on autopilot without even thinking. I believe once I practice that will be fine.

However, such a drop really is killing me on MM and I always preferred to run MM when in raids so I don't have my pet get all dumb and cause trouble. 

Do you have any ideas what I maybe doing wrong? Is there something I could have missed? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

DPS numbers for everyone are much lower than what they were before the patch.  It does come as a bit of a shock, but Hunters are still a very strong DPS class.  The new rotations will take a bit of getting used to, so don't fret too much.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm pushing 60K+ with pvp gear on my hunter.

 

The only way I see you having a Dps lose is probably rotation issues; if you have 4pc you might want to try waiting a second after each focus usage to save on focus. If you don't have 4pc then it might be haste issue. currently MM hunters have focus management issues resulting in downtime so figuring out a rotation that give you the lease downtime but also high enough dmg is a must. 

 

Currently I don't have 2/4pc and I go Barrage (opener), sidewinder, aim shot x2, marked shot, sidewinder, aim shot, with barrage on CD (can save for Aoe phase if it's a few seconds).

 

with 4pc i'd imagine it'll be something along the lines of, Barrage (opener and on CD), Marked shot (for rapid fire proc's), aimed shot x3 ( with some delay) sidewinder, repeat. 

The trick would be the delay between aimed shot to get x3 with not running out of vulnerability de-buff and focus, but you should be able to easily pull 60K+ doing something like that. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I had a DPS drop just like everyone but shawnyzz.  I found that I do far more damage with BM than MM, which is the opposite of damage before 7.0.3.

Recount indicates this is pretty much an across the board drop in dps, across all classes.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't agree at all.  I've been playing MM hunter all through this X-Pac and I actually saw an increase in my DPS since Legion patch. My hunter is sitting in 732iL gear with maxes ring and pre patch I was doing around 75kDPS on average.  Since patch I'm now pulling around 80-90kDPS on average sometimes hitting up to 110k DPS and on large mobs in HFC I can hit 360k up to even 600k DPS.  Check your rotation and for sure check your start priority since that did change but even with the stat change I have my starts for pre patch and I'm hitting those DPS levels. I don't think it's an issue with the patch changes, you have something set up wrong or you're doing something wrong.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, Drjeebus said:

I don't agree at all.  I've been playing MM hunter all through this X-Pac and I actually saw an increase in my DPS since Legion patch. My hunter is sitting in 732iL gear with maxes ring and pre patch I was doing around 75kDPS on average.  Since patch I'm now pulling around 80-90kDPS on average sometimes hitting up to 110k DPS and on large mobs in HFC I can hit 360k up to even 600k DPS.  Check your rotation and for sure check your start priority since that did change but even with the stat change I have my starts for pre patch and I'm hitting those DPS levels. I don't think it's an issue with the patch changes, you have something set up wrong or you're doing something wrong.  

Well, here's the thing:  I went from having 2 bosses where I was sub-110k dps (HFA and IR, never got a good parse on IR b/c guild rarely did full clears, and lol HFA) before the pre-patch to having 3 bosses where I broke 100k at all (Xhul, Tyrant, and Archimonde), 4 if you count my one >100k parse on Zakuun as BM.  This is at 740+ ilvl.  Sure on trash packs MM's dps went up through the roof, we passively cleave everything down without sacrificing anything for ST damage, but overall, yes, numbers went down quite a lot.

If you want proof:
Before Pre-patch

Post Pre-patch (make sure you're not just viewing a single spec).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 23.7.2016 at 2:32 AM, shawnyzz said:

I'm pushing 60K+ with pvp gear on my hunter.

Me too here. GS of 706 and doing fine with around 60k yesterday evening in the Azsuna instance

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By BuRnBuLL
      Hello everyone.
       
      I've been playing hunter MM as my main for a while, but lately i've noticed that my DPS output might not be as high as it should. A couple of months ago, I tought it might be my ilvl or my mastery that was too low, but i've tried different builds and i still can't get closer to some other hunters I run into some ToS H pugs.
       
      I'm actually sitting at 938 iLvl. Don't have many BiS, but my stats are kinda high. My weapon relics are bad(low ilvl, i'm still stuck with 915 relics), and I still didn't get any other good legendary besides the Soul of the Huntmaster.
       
      So my question is: Am I doing something wrong or it's just my relics/trinkets that aren't very decent? I was happy when i get past the 1M dps mark, but now i'm stuck at that point, and I can't see to get past that.
       
      Here's my armory link: https://worldofwarcraft.com/pt-br/character/azralon/piccola
       
      Hopefully you guys can help me out on this. Thanks!
    • By Riotzin
      <Cryogenic> - 4/9M - Recruiting all RDPS classes for an immediate raid spot to round out our 20m roster. Tues/Weds 7-11 SERVER. Discord/Flask/Food provided for raiders. 925++. Pst for more info!!!

      The guild was founded by a group of friends with a mission, to progress through mythic raids without the toxic environment. The guild was formed halfway through EN and despite the late start we built a solid core of raiders and down 5/7M EN before the Nighthold was released. We ended up having to break up as soon as we cleared heroic Nighthold, but we are back with a vengance here on Stormrage now. 

      CURRENT PROGRESSION:
      Emerald Nightmare -- 5/7M
      Trial of Valor -- 3/3H
      Nighthold -- 10/10H 5/10M (Guild break after Gul'dan kill)
      Tomb of Sargeras -- 9/9N 9/9H 4/9M
      MOST RECENT KILL: MYTHIC SISTERS OF THE MOON

      LOOKING FOR:
      We are currently looking for people that can commit to all raid days, who will show up prepared and not waste our time or their own time. We understand that real life happens, but we do ask that our raiders maintain at least 90% attendance and that can make sure they can raid without interruption. We don't have any strict attendance policies/punishments, however it is important for us to keep our progression as strong as possible, which relies heavily on raid wide attendance. 

      RAID TIMES:
      Tuesdays: 7-11 Server (EST) Mythic/Progression
      Wednesdays: 7-11 Server (EST) Mythic/Progression
      Thursday 8-11 Server (EST) Optional Heroic/Normal

      We also often run old content (M EN/ToV/Nightbane/Nighthold) as well as constant M+ groups throughout the day. These runs are 100% optional.

      RECRUITMENT:
      We are currently looking for all exceptional players to rebuild our raid team. We don't care about item level or prior experience. We want quality players to learn, grow, and progress with. We currently have a very strong core of raiders, but with attendance issues and people quitting wow, we are strongly shifting our focus on finding players that excel at their class/spec to round out the last few spots in our main roster. 

      CURRENT NEED:
      ALL DPS CLASSES - (ranged more so than melee)
      ALL EXCEPTIONAL PLAYERS

      EXPECTATIONS:
      We expect all raiders to come to raids prepared. This means: 
      - Having the correct gems/enchants (200 gems)
      - Class knowledge
      - Raid preparation. 
      We only raid 8 hours a week, so it is imperative that we don't waste time.All underpreforming players, regardless of rank and class, will be benched until performance can be brought up to par for the current content. We are not interested in carrying anyone, and if you cannot perform raid mechanics, then we are not the guild for you. Cauldrons and food will be provided by the guild bank when available. Everyone in the guild is taken care of, and this is done primarily through donation by our members. Our guild is a small community and we all pitch in to get things done.

      LOOT SYSTEM:
      As a guild we opt to run loot through a loot council that is run by the officers. Loot is distributed in a way that most benefits the raid team in terms of progression. Distributing loot factors are performance/attendance/role/rank (I.E. Trials are typically lower on loot priority. (Higher rank than takes priority over trial) Loot is always dished out in a way that is most beneficial to the guild is a whole, and is a completely transparent process to avoid drama. We use the add-on RClootcouncil for ease of distribution.

      PRIMARY CONTACT:
      Recruitment Officer - Riotzin (FrostyDog#155103)

      OTHER CONTACTS:
      Guild Master/Raid Leader - Dêv (CrispyD#1823) 
      Lootmaster/Co-GM - Beanboss

      Anyone listed can answer any further questions you may have pertaining to the guild as well as conduct your interview in our guild discord.