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wow 7.1 Legion Patch: Return to Karazhan!

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The presentation at the Legion Café at Gamescom saw Watcher announce that we will return to Karazhan in Legion Patch 7.1! Check out the details here.

Here's what we learnt from Slootbag's stream with Watcher:

  • Karazhan will be a LARGE 5-man dungeon, almost a 5-player raid with 9+ bosses (due to the opera counting as more than 1)!
  • The old raid will still remain, they do not want to remove that piece of history from the game.
  • They are planning a small raid between Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold that will wrap up the story of Stormheim, since that was left at a loose end. 
  • They are hoping to push more outdoor content.
  • The PTR for the patch 7.1 will launch very shortly after Legion launches.

The trailer is now up on the YouTube of MMOChampion:

 

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I'm really happy to hear that the devs made the choice not to mess with the old Karazhan raid.  I think it would be almost tragic to take that completely out of the game.  I will be looking forward to what they've come up with, especially when they call it almost a 5 man raid!

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27 minutes ago, ghostdeini said:

I'm really happy to hear that the devs made the choice not to mess with the old Karazhan raid.  I think it would be almost tragic to take that completely out of the game.  I will be looking forward to what they've come up with, especially when they call it almost a 5 man raid!

Wish they would've done that with ZG to. 

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i'm going to be the downer at this party and i'm not sure how i feel about this. if it is really really plot relevant and fun to do okay but otherwise I don't like rehashed content. WoTLK is heralded as the best expac ever yet the entire first raid tier was recycled, i'm aware that kara 2.0 is a big arse dungeon, but, I just don't care for doing the same thing twice. I've run kara 1.0 , a million times trying to get both gorehowl and the mount, I don't want to do it again >:(  

however i do like that they are adding mini tie in raids and that though, that gets a thumbs up. wod desperately needed anything, ANYTHING, so if they are going to make us wait awhile for content, give us something to chew on, so mini raids are a nice between meal snack.

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Its awesome with some new content, but I must keep near to demonardvarks feeling.. I know that I really had my share of Kara, and will not be happy to see them turning that into some important raid again.. I remember the pain just to get attuned and get a key, and never mind the hundreds of times I ran it. Just finding a guild with good enough players to take on the content was hard, and, well it payed of, I became a good shockadin, for just a litle time.. I was glad, butt allso full of it, and actually full of most old raids and dungeons.. The draenor ones HC and that shit was allso no good retro feel, its just a litle to fresh in mind.. Ragnaros event where we all got gorehounds was fun though.. I just think I remember the mobs and bosses hitted, but hey, that was more of a retro feel..

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I would like a new raid more than a revamp, but still excited to get in 'new' contect :)

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17 hours ago, demonardvark said:

i'm going to be the downer at this party and i'm not sure how i feel about this. if it is really really plot relevant and fun to do okay but otherwise I don't like rehashed content. WoTLK is heralded as the best expac ever yet the entire first raid tier was recycled, i'm aware that kara 2.0 is a big arse dungeon, but, I just don't care for doing the same thing twice. I've run kara 1.0 , a million times trying to get both gorehowl and the mount, I don't want to do it again >:(  

however i do like that they are adding mini tie in raids and that though, that gets a thumbs up. wod desperately needed anything, ANYTHING, so if they are going to make us wait awhile for content, give us something to chew on, so mini raids are a nice between meal snack.

It is not as much of you being downer as much as it is your point of view as a player that has been around since at least BC.  Look at the millions of players that did not play during that time and either did not know about it or have not had the chance to go through it.  Going through an "old school" when you are max level three expansions later has no where near the same feel.  Like you said, if it ties into the storyline it will be entertaining, but you have to also look at everything Bliz is doing.  The movie (and future movies) are tied into this expac, if they did not include Karazhan it would be a let down.   

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5 hours ago, artemisthemp said:

I really looking forward to seeing the bosses and running Karazhan again.

I'm looking forward to seeing what bosses they keep (even relatively) the same, and what's going to be NEW...

and Medivh...  where are you, since your magic has been affecting Khadgar's spells...

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58 minutes ago, Bonse said:

 The movie (and future movies) are tied into this expac, if they did not include Karazhan it would be a let down.   

Did not consider this ^ . Back when legions formal date wasn't known people speculated it would be after the movie launch to generate hype (which was correct). I imagine you nailed it on the head, they had to make sure new players drawn from the movie had something familiar to dive into. 

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Had my huge share of karazhan in the past but was still looking forward to see this, until I saw it was mythic only :(
Not because I don't want to do it but imo you can do that better in a guild group instead of a random pug group.

Sad Dao.../cry
 

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I have to kinda agree with demonardvark as well. I mean, the Hearthstone adventure has left me with a bittersweet taste... You have this iconic, super spooky raid and you turn it into a party with a younger, handsome Medivh. While the idea is quite innovative and the execution has been pretty good so far, you can't help but feel weird about it when you have experienced the magic of the original Karazhan.

As far as the 7.1 dungeon is concerned, I am not expecting them to recreate that magic but at least it's not going to be a party. I am really looking forward to the music again, it's my favourite in the entire game. Too bad I haven't stepped foot in there since I got the mount...

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This Karazhan logo reminds me of Bayonetta, for some reason... Hahaha.

I hope this new Karazhan has a less complicated design and teleports for the areas; I always get lost in that place.

Since they're bringing Karazhan back, I wonder if Ulduar will get a similar treatment, since the pre-patch questline also featured Ulduar, Brann and Magni. Would be awesome if Ulduar became a major city-like environment, with vendors, inns, and such. Now that the Keepers are free from Yogg-Saron's influence and are rebuilding the place (which is noted by the mechagnomes standing by doors during the quest), I'd love to see Ulduar returning in some way; either a safe zone, a dungeon or raid.

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Can't wait to see the changes that come with the instance. Wonder how long it will take to clear it.

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59 minutes ago, PatrickHenry said:

It was one of Sargeras' key points in Azeroth's history.  It HAS to be in Legion, IMO. 

 

Following this path, I wonder if we will FINALLY see some sort of recreation of the battle between Aegwynn and Sargeras in cinematic form. The hype would be unbearable.

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