Fire mage and crit question

[R4dagast 0]

I think it's referred to as a soft cap? Is there a point where stacking more crit is pointless or just stack as much as possible.

[Valks 2,373]

1 hour ago, R4dagast said:

I think it's referred to as a soft cap? Is there a point where stacking more crit is pointless or just stack as much as possible.

No, due to Pyretic Incantation. 

[Alaw 0]

So, there is no soft soft, or no do not stack crit as much as possible?

I heard from a few that fire mages should stop stacking crit after 45 percent. Is this true? I've noticed even a mage in Method has his crit at 45.12 percent as of today

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/tarren-mill/Qooning/simple

[Zadina 923]

Afaik the crit "soft cap" is at 22k Crit, that's around 91%. So yeah, never stop gearing for Crit!

[Valks 2,373]

6 hours ago, Alaw said:

So, there is no soft soft, or no do not stack crit as much as possible?

I heard from a few that fire mages should stop stacking crit after 45 percent. Is this true? I've noticed even a mage in Method has his crit at 45.12 percent as of today

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/tarren-mill/Qooning/simple

He also has crit on every single piece, as well as crit gems etc.

It's possible he just can't get it higher currently.

[Alaw 0]

Ok, that makes sense, I just saw a few people with that level. I simmed with other gear and it was a lot lower. Thanks for the quick reply!

[Valks 2,373]

No problem :) If you have other questions, just ask!

[Noboday 0]

Blainie, do you know why they (method fire mage) take so much haste ? (there is a cap around 1800) but they go for like 15%-20% of haste, it's huge !

[neste 0]

I think his going for the crit on the items and don´t look so much on the secondary stat on the item. that´s why there is so much haste :P

Edited September 30, 2016 by neste

[Valks 2,373]

Exactly as neste says, the value of crit is so high that he will simply be taking as much crit as possible.

[Spicyboy 2]

What should I do if I get a piece of gear that has a hefty ilvl increase, but has either no crit, or a couple hundred less crit? Example...I think I have a chestpiece in my bag, that is only 830 or something, but it has a couple hundred crit rating, but my equipped chest piece has no crit, but it ilvl 865...... what do?

Edited October 1, 2016 by Spicyboy
Re-worded

[Zadina 923]

@Noboday

Apart from what people said, EN gear has quite a lot of Haste from what I've noticed. :)

@Spicyboy

The only way you can really tell is to sim it :/ Sometimes the upgrade is too good, even if there's no crit. Other times if you fall below a certain x crit level, Simulationcraft will tell you to keep the lower ilvl item that has crit.

[Spicyboy 2]

Is this from the downloadable zip on simulationcraft.org?

[Zadina 923]

Aye!

Here's a quick guide from Method's Lexi. It should be enough for what you need to do: