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First week has passed, how does everyone feel about your DPS in raid?

How is your dps performance in a raid comparing to others that have similar ilvl and artifact lvl?  

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I am eager to know what everyone thinks about WW dps after the first raiding week and therefore evaluate my rotation and performance, so despite that I am not very good at English, I carry out this poll as a conversation starter.  

In the first week of Legion I was very excited about WW because in ALL the dungeons  I did way more damage than every other classes, sometimes 30% or 40% more. This high expectation was met with slightly frustration and confusion when it came to raid content last week. Last night my guild killed heroic Xavius and here is the log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rJRXdwHDKPc6ga8y#fight=26&type=damage-done. I ranked 7(vincenkw) but that was mainly because I happened to outlive most of others and got a chance to do a lot of damage during the crazed 15 secs. During earlier attempts my DPS ranked around #10 - #14 and almost got replaced, and my ilvl(853) was higher than a good part of the raids. The other night I did heroic Ursoc with a 12 men pug team, I ranked #3 eventually but also almost got replaced earlier because I ranked around #7-#10 during attempts that last for about 3 to 4 minutes, my ilvl was 851 and the #1 and #2 was hunter and DH, their ilvl were around 848. About the artifact level, I've asked several guild members and we are all around 20.

All in all, I feel like WW is not so competent as I have thought it would be, what do you guys think?Also, it seems to me WW usually don't do well comparatively in the first 3 or 4 minutes which often result in being replaced while the team is making attempts, what is your experience regarding this issue?

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Out of interest, were you playing before or after the changes to classes? Just before I comment on the rest :p

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Tbh, I am not very sure. I am aware there was a change, but since there is no patch notes about it(or I havdn't found it), I don't know when it happened. The Xavis kill I mentioned was after the change, this I can confirm.

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I am interested in hearing what other raiding monks will share about their Emerald Nightmare experiences.

While my monk is not yet raid-ready, I've dungeoned and raided with multiple WW monks, and I've seen them perform in top 3 for multi-target fights at in normal raids and mythic dungeons.

I'm also interested in hearing about the class changes that were stealthed into game this September

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Atm im only pugging (EN norm & heroic), and doing M+9 as progression, and in my experience WW monks are quite high.

In raids i tend to top the dmg charts with at least 2-4% more dmg than the others, probably due to Karma-legendary.
Dungeons the only proper competition is the DH, and thats with a lot of aoe (thrash), but seeing DHs lack a bit in ST, i tend to top it in overall.

Now im very interested about what monk changes.. Havent even seen anything in the "hidden hotfixes"!

Edited by Enimas

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The only change I've noticed for sure is that SotW seems to do about half damage (maybe less?) to secondary targets, like how FoF used to be.

Also been noticing the same thing with DPS charts, before and after the hotfixes. I tend to be far and away the top overall DPS in dungeons, and still manage to edge out most better geared players on pure single-target boss fights. So far I've only seen a couple rogues and 1 demo lock do more DPS than me in pure single-target fights, and they were only a couple % higher. But then in PUG raids, even in LFR, I'm usually somewhere around #4-7 on the charts, even in AOE-heavy fights. Don't really know why. Could just be doing some mechanics slightly wrong, I dunno. I know I've popped karma too early or too late a few times.

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