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Havoc DPS Stats

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Did the Havoc spec changed the priority stats?

Last week i was around 200-205k DPS, going down to 184-188k DPS with 846 ILVL. 40% crit.

Suddenly, this week i cant go further 160K DPS... my fellow DH DPS its lower crit than me, same build. The only difference i can see its the mastery stats, which he has higher.

The hotfix changed the stats priority for us?

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I ran my character through sim today and it came out 4.5 crit, 3.9 vers, 3.88 haste, 2.98 mastery, That's going to be vary based on your gear slightly but the general rule of Crit>Vers>Haste>Mastery still applies.

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Locky, tonight ill be getting my log so maybe you can help me to check what im doing wrong. So long, i have a question. Meta should be used at the beggining of the fight right? Should be a good idea to just meta and jump to my target? Or should i used FR toward my target (aka boss) and then use meta?

During the rotation i tend to used VR and next FR to come back to my target. Is this a mistake? Should i use VR, then a range hability like TG or EB? Then come back to my target?

thnx in advance for your help

 

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11 minutes ago, Kalyl said:

Locky, tonight ill be getting my log so maybe you can help me to check what im doing wrong.

Yes, I can.

11 minutes ago, Kalyl said:

Meta should be used at the beggining of the fight right? Should be a good idea to just meta and jump to my target? Or should i used FR toward my target (aka boss) and then use meta?

Yes, it should. I Meta leap to the boss, FR through him, start opener.

12 minutes ago, Kalyl said:

During the rotation i tend to used VR and next FR to come back to my target. Is this a mistake? Should i use VR, then a range hability like TG or EB? Then come back to my target?

Yes, it is a mistake. You're wasting momentum uptime but overwriting it like that. You should be pointing yourself in such a way that when you VR you will land where you are still in ranged of attacking the boss. Currently in EN, there is no boss where this is not possible.

Never clip momentum.

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This does make me curious though, because Ask Mr. Robot now has the Havoc stat weights as CS>Vers>Mast>Hast. It keeps telling me to replace an 840 CS/Mast with an 850 Vers/Mast

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1 hour ago, Kahlin said:

This does make me curious though, because Ask Mr. Robot now has the Havoc stat weights as CS>Vers>Mast>Hast. It keeps telling me to replace an 840 CS/Mast with an 850 Vers/Mast

Ask Mr. Robot is currently wrong, this is why I initially ran my character through simulationcraft to determine the correct stat weights for him.

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Definetly i am doing something wrong... anyone has a video that can show me the movement while doing dps? im still having issues while using VR and coming back to my target... my warcraftlog still doesnt show thats why i am not posting it

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11 hours ago, Rrasis said:

Ask Mr. Robot is currently wrong, this is why I initially ran my character through simulationcraft to determine the correct stat weights for him.

I'm with you, I feel it's wrong too, but just trying to do my due diligence and ran a Simcraft on my DH for stat scaling (I made an incorrect statement and just chopped it off, my Simcraft was out of date and is reflecting properly now, thanks!)

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16 hours ago, Kahlin said:

I'm with you, I feel it's wrong too, but just trying to do my due diligence and ran a Simcraft on my DH for stat scaling (I made an incorrect statement and just chopped it off, my Simcraft was out of date and is reflecting properly now, thanks!)

The bane of every sim users life - forgetting to update.

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21 hours ago, Kalyl said:

Definetly i am doing something wrong... anyone has a video that can show me the movement while doing dps? im still having issues while using VR and coming back to my target... my warcraftlog still doesnt show thats why i am not posting it

It's not my video, but it's a Mythic Elerethe kill from Havoc PoV. Might help.

 

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Thnx a lot... But yesterday i checked a lot of info and seems i could did it better. Need more practice. More videos, mode sims... i am sure we can be a really strong dps class, just takes a little time. Or maybe blizzard change the momentum mechanic, bc another problem its moving too much during battles, and so far EN has a lot of it... maybe some more static and competitive build... im not sure... i like momentum, but right now its too risky...

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I believe there is a more static build, but I don't think it's exactly competitive when compared with the momentum build.

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Yeah. Its less dps. But it is an option. Its a class that happens to be in construction atm

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For sure. Hopefully it will get buffed to become more competitive in the future.

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