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Sin poison rogue rotation.

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hey guys, since legion ive always played sin rogue, and never have i strayed away from the bleed/exsang build. i was hoping one of you could give me an idea of how the rotation when playing agonizing poison is supposed to look like. i have roughly 117% mastery when i play that build.

any suggestions/help is greatly appreciated :)

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14 hours ago, Anarchy312 said:

hey guys, since legion ive always played sin rogue, and never have i strayed away from the bleed/exsang build. i was hoping one of you could give me an idea of how the rotation when playing agonizing poison is supposed to look like. i have roughly 117% mastery when i play that build.

any suggestions/help is greatly appreciated :)

It's the exact same, you just don't use Exsang.

You still buff Rupture with Vanish, and you still use 6CP Envenoms to fill in.

Talents are Elaborate Planning and Agonizing Poison, instead of the other ones from those tiers.

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8 hours ago, Anarchy312 said:

doesnt feel like im doing more dmg than with exsang, guess ill just have to practice it more.

It involves a lot more planning around your openers, and squeezing damage into the windows of bonus damage

Additionally, because it takes a while to stack Agonizing Poison, it doesn't do very well on multi-target fights

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22 hours ago, Carrn said:

It's the exact same, you just don't use Exsang.

You still buff Rupture with Vanish, and you still use 6CP Envenoms to fill in.

Talents are Elaborate Planning and Agonizing Poison, instead of the other ones from those tiers.

So you should always envenom at 6cp ? I have been using my envenoms at 4cp + to keep EP up.

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6 hours ago, Carrn said:

It involves a lot more planning around your openers, and squeezing damage into the windows of bonus damage

Additionally, because it takes a while to stack Agonizing Poison, it doesn't do very well on multi-target fights

ok, thanks for the tips :) do you have any idea on stat weight? ik mastery > crit > vers but the exact numbers? thanks!

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39 minutes ago, Anarchy312 said:

ok, thanks for the tips :) do you have any idea on stat weight? ik mastery > crit > vers but the exact numbers? thanks!

Those vary according to your current gear. Sometimes you're overflowing Mastery, then getting Crit would be way more beneficial than stacking more Mastery, etc.

That's why you gotta sim your toon from time to time.

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6 hours ago, Yudas said:

So you should always envenom at 6cp ? I have been using my envenoms at 4cp + to keep EP up.

I think 6CP is better, especially if you pool resources correctly

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So far I have spent countless hours in training dummies, mythic dungeons and heroic EN (H 5 of 7), also I sim regularly now and the bleed build still outlasts AP/EP by a good 5-7k sustained and the opener blows AP/EP away. Then again I only have 95% mastery so I'm not entirely sure how high the mastery is supposed to be to make it viable. Is there a target % for mastery on the poison build?

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3 hours ago, gonlaz said:

So far I have spent countless hours in training dummies, mythic dungeons and heroic EN (H 5 of 7), also I sim regularly now and the bleed build still outlasts AP/EP by a good 5-7k sustained and the opener blows AP/EP away. Then again I only have 95% mastery so I'm not entirely sure how high the mastery is supposed to be to make it viable. Is there a target % for mastery on the poison build?

when i play this build i have 117% mastery, seems like a good number to me to be pushing 105% to out sustain the bleed build

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3 hours ago, gonlaz said:

So far I have spent countless hours in training dummies, mythic dungeons and heroic EN (H 5 of 7), also I sim regularly now and the bleed build still outlasts AP/EP by a good 5-7k sustained and the opener blows AP/EP away. Then again I only have 95% mastery so I'm not entirely sure how high the mastery is supposed to be to make it viable. Is there a target % for mastery on the poison build?

No there isn't a target percentage, because there are far too many variables for it. However, most people that I see swapping over and seeing improved results have around the 110% mark or higher

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