timmo900

UH - 20% Haste needed?

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Hey guys,

 

Just wondering peoples thoughts on the 20% Haste Minimum for UH DPS.

Who thinks it is absolutely crucial?

I am looking at a bunch of recent drops i have that are basically same ilvl. 

I run castigator and all of the pieces i want to swap in, will give me loads more crit, but drop my haste from 20% down to 16%.

how detrimental do you think this will be if i make the change? my crit will sit at almost 40% up from 32%.

Thanks in advance,

 

Timmo

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do understand things in formal guides are aimed at absolute top dps and min max players, etc.

the short is more haste leads to less downtime and a more well flowing rotation, so around 18% really is the soft cap, you can do fine below it, it just feels much better at 18. In your case with the huge increase in crit, you will be fine at 16.

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18 hours ago, timmo900 said:

Thanks for the input guys, appreciate it!

I don't think 20% haste is really needed, but it seems to be the cutoff point where haste starts to lower in value compared to the other stats. 20% haste also seem to be the point where the global cooldown and playspeed feels "right". I notice a significant difference in "how it feels" going from 16% to 20% haste.

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3 hours ago, Zulgh said:

I don't think 20% haste is really needed, but it seems to be the cutoff point where haste starts to lower in value compared to the other stats. 20% haste also seem to be the point where the global cooldown and playspeed feels "right". I notice a significant difference in "how it feels" going from 16% to 20% haste.

you are correct, haste suffers horrific diminishing returns, and 20% is more or less the cap of where you want to be, the example we can see with this is soul reaper we get 21% haste bonus and you barely have time to push your buttons. so 20% does give the best feel I agree but its really a min max priority setting nothing more. It's a good guideline but not mandate.

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Where are you guys getting the 20% number from? Is this just personal experience or is it listed in a guide somewhere? Thanks!

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1 hour ago, croana said:

Where are you guys getting the 20% number from? Is this just personal experience or is it listed in a guide somewhere? Thanks!

Theorycrafting, sims, and a buttload of playtime. Who do you think writes the guides? Blizzord certainly doesn't, its dedicated players who sit there running thousands of iterations of sims and staring at logs until your eyes bleed :D

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