Ferelas

[Fire] Further DMG Improvement

Sign in to follow this  

5 posts in this topic

Hey there,

I am wondering how i can further improve my dmg. I am doing all the things the guide recommends, but i think there is more that i can do in terms of doing DMG. I espacially want to max my dmg at single targets. I m fine with ae, but I think there is more potential. I ve tried a lot different rotation priorities and strategies, but i cant get over 257k dps with my gear. The main problem is, that there are points where my dmg drops below 100k and I think that is the main source for my misery. Can someone have a look at my log? I just did a dummy log cause i think it is the optimal way to figure out the best rotation. 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dyT7kPDzJw6KhLRb/#type=auras&source=5&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%2494493818.0.0.Mage%24false%24116014

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Your logs are in German so I cannot really read them so well, but it appears that you are wasting your fireblasts and not using them for your Combustion and ROP burn.

 

I noticed you never used ROP or Combustion until around the 01:30 mark.  That's fairly long into the fight, you could be working on your 2nd rotation of ROP+Combustion in 30 seconds.  That's a huge DPS loss.

 

ROP isn't being used nearly as much as it should be.

 

Follow the guide.  You're not from logs.  Re-think your rotation, Fireblast should not lead.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey there,

thanks for your reply. The translated log.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dyT7kPDzJw6KhLRb/#type=auras&source=5&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%2494493818.0.0.Mage%24false%24116014&translate=true

You are right, I am not casting ROP often enough, I can cast it twice after the engage. (fixed it)

But however...I tried another rotation, without wasting fireblasts and saving it for my combustion phase. My damage increased slightly, but simulationcraft tells me that I can reach 300k dps. Well...how is that possible? 

New Log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NF7Rm9XHDaGJb18A/#fight=6&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24190319^0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24116014&type=damage-done&translate=true&source=5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Your Rotation should be as follows:

RoP > fireball (Pop combustion at the end of the cast... so for a 1.8 cast time activate combustion mid cast around 1.5). This will auto activate your heating up half proc.  Full proc with 1 charge of your Pheonix flames while your fireball is in the air traveling to the target. This will give you your first pyro blast. Use, then continue to full proc off your heating up using your fireblast + Flame On (see talent tree), and finish with your second charge of pheonix flames.  Save your 3rd charge for fill phase.

Recap:

RoP, fireball (pop combustion at 1.5 second cast time), pheonix flames, pyro, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, flame on, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, pheonix flames. 

 

This should maximize your damage, though you will see fluctuations based on raw damage output from your crits and as a result variance in the the trailing DoT damage from ignite.  So changes to your rotation have big implications to your dps output on an encounter.

Hope this helps.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 10/26/2016 at 2:07 PM, Systemgrubby said:

Your Rotation should be as follows:

RoP > fireball (Pop combustion at the end of the cast... so for a 1.8 cast time activate combustion mid cast around 1.5). This will auto activate your heating up half proc.  Full proc with 1 charge of your Pheonix flames while your fireball is in the air traveling to the target. This will give you your first pyro blast. Use, then continue to full proc off your heating up using your fireblast + Flame On (see talent tree), and finish with your second charge of pheonix flames.  Save your 3rd charge for fill phase.

Recap:

RoP, fireball (pop combustion at 1.5 second cast time), pheonix flames, pyro, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, flame on, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, pheonix flames. 

 

This should maximize your damage, though you will see fluctuations based on raw damage output from your crits and as a result variance in the the trailing DoT damage from ignite.  So changes to your rotation have big implications to your dps output on an encounter.

Hope this helps.

 

You should never cast ROP then Fireball.  You should always have a Hot Streak ready to use when your combustion is up and ready to use.  ROP + Combustion straight into pyro chains.  Casting a Fireball then putting combustion on does 2 things:  One it wastes time on ROP.  Two it isn't going to give you a Hot Streak unless you already have a heating up proc.

 

Maximizing ROP+Combustion is key.  To do that, you must already have a hot streak pyro ready to throw out when you hit combustion.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By molodirazz
      All applications will be reviewed and considered however if you are playing a class/spec combination we need then your chances of joining will be higher.
      A little bit of info about us:
      We are a group of friends and serious raiders on EU Twisting Nether looking to recruit skilled like-minded players into our roster for Mythic Legion raids and onwards. We will offer a sociable and fun raiding environment while maintaining a strong desire for progression. Our Discord is very active and we encourage all members to chat and play together not only for raids. The guild formed late March 2016 and fully cleared 13/13 Mythic Hellfire Citadel pre nerf shortly after. We've since been improving our world ranking every tier.
      We currently raid 3 days per week on Mythic: Wednesday, Sunday and Tuesday 19:15-22:15 server time. While it is not a lot we try to make the most out of our time. We run optional heroic/normal/alt/previous tier raids during off days in which raiders are welcome to come to. Our members also play other games outside raid times together where anyone is welcome to join(LoL, PUBG, HotS, Overwatch etc.).
      Our loot system for Mythic is RC Loot Council.
      What we expect from you:
      - We are a raiding guild with only a 9 hour per week schedule so you are expected to attend and be ON TIME! However we understand things can come up sometimes but please let us know.
      - Be able to speak and understand the English language and not be afraid to communicate with other members during raids.
      - Actively doing dungeons/world quests to improve your gear and artifact weapon.
      - Have a strong understanding of the current raid tier and be able to play your class to it's potential.
      - Always come to raids prepared(i.e. bringing food and potions, etc).
      - Come fully gemmed and enchanted with the correct stats for your class and spec.
      - Access to Discord and a working microphone.
      - Have a computer that can handle 20 man raiding and a good, stable internet connection.
      - Exorsus Raid Tools, Weakauras2 and RC Loot Council addons installed. We may ask you to install others.
      If you have any further questions please contact us at battletag: Vims#21684

      To apply please visit our guild website: http://asylum-tn.enjin.com/recruitment
      __________________________________________________________________________
      Requirements to be considered into current main raids:
      - 930~ ilvl
      - 72+ traits.
      - 8/9 in ToS.
      - Exceptions to the requirements may be made.
      _____________________________________________________________________________
      We're currently looking for the classes below but may consider other classes as well.
      Priest: Shadow.
      Druid: Balance.
      Warlock: Affliction.
      Hunter: MM.
      Mage:Frost/fire
      Rogue: Assa/sub
      Any and all applications will be considered.
    • By Narii625

      VISIT OUR WEBSITE!
       
      SERVER: Illidan
      RAID TIMES: Fridays & Sundays 10pm - 1am Server Time.
      PROGRESSION: 11/11H, 11/11N
      LOOT STYLE: EPGP DKP Reloaded (http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/EPGP)
      CURRENTLY ACCEPTING (940+ ilvl)
      All DPS! (Healing offspec preferable but not required) ABOUT US
      940+ ilvl to trial immediately, but we accept others.
      We are looking for skilled and laid back DPS and a Healer for Heroic and eventually Mythic Antorus.
      We're semi-casual in terms of time we spend raiding but serious about progression, attendance, and performance.
      We're a close-knit guild that hangs out in Discord a lot, joking, playing alts, Mythic+, other games or just hanging out. Fun guild events happen monthly!
      Overall, we're very social with guild members that actually talk to each other. (18+ required, we talk like pirates!)
       
      Fill out our Guild Application! (Click link) 
      Battle.net ID: LadyPluu#1299, Discord ID: LadyPluu#4473
      Guild Recruitment Officer
      Booty Pirates Website
    • By reddfoxx146
      Strangely Ironic is guild of friends and family that has been around the block a couple times. We are trying to recruit active players to form a raid team. Due to RL and the age of the game our ranks have dwindled. We are a casual guild looking to raid two nights a week from 9pm EST to 11pm EST; days of the week will change as I work shift work. If you want to join and don't want to raid we are still accepting all applicants as we want to foster an active community.
      No hot-heads please, as we are a guild who recognizes that this is just a game and we are all here to have fun and relax.
      If you are interested add reddfoxx#1496 or head to strangelyironic.enjin.com to fill out an application.
    • By Ahdra2154
      We're a guild looking for people who want to have a great time, hang out with each other, laugh and have fun while killing stuff in raids! 

      Guild Name: RaidCat
      Faction: Alliance
      Realm (EU): Silvermoon
      Realm Type: PVE
      Realm Timezone: CEST
      Progression: 8/11 HC Antorus
      Raid Times: 19:30st - 22:00st
      Raid Schedule: Friday and Monday (additional raids on Wednesday for alts, mythic etc)
      Openings: Range DPS (help us knock those melee off the top of the meters!)

      We raid twice a week in the evenings with optional extra runs appearing as requested. 
      Currently we also raid on Wednesdays (normal) to help gear up mains and alts.
      As our raid roster increases and  heroic progress continues Wednesday evening will likely become a mythic progression night. However mythic is not our end goal or focus, but rather something we try to make extra time for. Social members also welcome!

      Looking for: Range DPS (warlock, mage, hunter, shadow priest, hunter) Other applications considered.

      We do everything from Transmog runs, PVP, Mythic+ and whatever else you can think of, with our main focus on raiding.

      We are aiming for a relaxed yet skilled raiding environment where people can fill in for each other, not having to worry about always attending since people can fill in for you, focusing on having fun and improving ourselves with each kill.

      We do care about people following tactics and knowing what they're doing (so do your homework or ask for help!) so we may actually get some stuff done as well, that's why we're looking mainly for experienced raiders that want a more flexible environment (if you are new to raiding you are still welcome)

      We use Discord and you are welcome to join and hang out before deciding to move over.

      Officers: Maxilloss & Ahdra#2154