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Hey there,

I am wondering how i can further improve my dmg. I am doing all the things the guide recommends, but i think there is more that i can do in terms of doing DMG. I espacially want to max my dmg at single targets. I m fine with ae, but I think there is more potential. I ve tried a lot different rotation priorities and strategies, but i cant get over 257k dps with my gear. The main problem is, that there are points where my dmg drops below 100k and I think that is the main source for my misery. Can someone have a look at my log? I just did a dummy log cause i think it is the optimal way to figure out the best rotation. 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dyT7kPDzJw6KhLRb/#type=auras&source=5&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%2494493818.0.0.Mage%24false%24116014

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Your logs are in German so I cannot really read them so well, but it appears that you are wasting your fireblasts and not using them for your Combustion and ROP burn.

 

I noticed you never used ROP or Combustion until around the 01:30 mark.  That's fairly long into the fight, you could be working on your 2nd rotation of ROP+Combustion in 30 seconds.  That's a huge DPS loss.

 

ROP isn't being used nearly as much as it should be.

 

Follow the guide.  You're not from logs.  Re-think your rotation, Fireblast should not lead.

 

 

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Hey there,

thanks for your reply. The translated log.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dyT7kPDzJw6KhLRb/#type=auras&source=5&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%2494493818.0.0.Mage%24false%24116014&translate=true

You are right, I am not casting ROP often enough, I can cast it twice after the engage. (fixed it)

But however...I tried another rotation, without wasting fireblasts and saving it for my combustion phase. My damage increased slightly, but simulationcraft tells me that I can reach 300k dps. Well...how is that possible? 

New Log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NF7Rm9XHDaGJb18A/#fight=6&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24190319^0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24116014&type=damage-done&translate=true&source=5

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Your Rotation should be as follows:

RoP > fireball (Pop combustion at the end of the cast... so for a 1.8 cast time activate combustion mid cast around 1.5). This will auto activate your heating up half proc.  Full proc with 1 charge of your Pheonix flames while your fireball is in the air traveling to the target. This will give you your first pyro blast. Use, then continue to full proc off your heating up using your fireblast + Flame On (see talent tree), and finish with your second charge of pheonix flames.  Save your 3rd charge for fill phase.

Recap:

RoP, fireball (pop combustion at 1.5 second cast time), pheonix flames, pyro, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, flame on, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, pheonix flames. 

 

This should maximize your damage, though you will see fluctuations based on raw damage output from your crits and as a result variance in the the trailing DoT damage from ignite.  So changes to your rotation have big implications to your dps output on an encounter.

Hope this helps.

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On 10/26/2016 at 2:07 PM, Systemgrubby said:

Your Rotation should be as follows:

RoP > fireball (Pop combustion at the end of the cast... so for a 1.8 cast time activate combustion mid cast around 1.5). This will auto activate your heating up half proc.  Full proc with 1 charge of your Pheonix flames while your fireball is in the air traveling to the target. This will give you your first pyro blast. Use, then continue to full proc off your heating up using your fireblast + Flame On (see talent tree), and finish with your second charge of pheonix flames.  Save your 3rd charge for fill phase.

Recap:

RoP, fireball (pop combustion at 1.5 second cast time), pheonix flames, pyro, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, flame on, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, pheonix flames. 

 

This should maximize your damage, though you will see fluctuations based on raw damage output from your crits and as a result variance in the the trailing DoT damage from ignite.  So changes to your rotation have big implications to your dps output on an encounter.

Hope this helps.

 

You should never cast ROP then Fireball.  You should always have a Hot Streak ready to use when your combustion is up and ready to use.  ROP + Combustion straight into pyro chains.  Casting a Fireball then putting combustion on does 2 things:  One it wastes time on ROP.  Two it isn't going to give you a Hot Streak unless you already have a heating up proc.

 

Maximizing ROP+Combustion is key.  To do that, you must already have a hot streak pyro ready to throw out when you hit combustion.

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