Ferelas

[Fire] Further DMG Improvement

Sign in to follow this  

5 posts in this topic

Hey there,

I am wondering how i can further improve my dmg. I am doing all the things the guide recommends, but i think there is more that i can do in terms of doing DMG. I espacially want to max my dmg at single targets. I m fine with ae, but I think there is more potential. I ve tried a lot different rotation priorities and strategies, but i cant get over 257k dps with my gear. The main problem is, that there are points where my dmg drops below 100k and I think that is the main source for my misery. Can someone have a look at my log? I just did a dummy log cause i think it is the optimal way to figure out the best rotation. 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dyT7kPDzJw6KhLRb/#type=auras&source=5&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%2494493818.0.0.Mage%24false%24116014

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Your logs are in German so I cannot really read them so well, but it appears that you are wasting your fireblasts and not using them for your Combustion and ROP burn.

 

I noticed you never used ROP or Combustion until around the 01:30 mark.  That's fairly long into the fight, you could be working on your 2nd rotation of ROP+Combustion in 30 seconds.  That's a huge DPS loss.

 

ROP isn't being used nearly as much as it should be.

 

Follow the guide.  You're not from logs.  Re-think your rotation, Fireblast should not lead.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey there,

thanks for your reply. The translated log.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dyT7kPDzJw6KhLRb/#type=auras&source=5&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%2494493818.0.0.Mage%24false%24116014&translate=true

You are right, I am not casting ROP often enough, I can cast it twice after the engage. (fixed it)

But however...I tried another rotation, without wasting fireblasts and saving it for my combustion phase. My damage increased slightly, but simulationcraft tells me that I can reach 300k dps. Well...how is that possible? 

New Log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NF7Rm9XHDaGJb18A/#fight=6&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24190319^0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24116014&type=damage-done&translate=true&source=5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Your Rotation should be as follows:

RoP > fireball (Pop combustion at the end of the cast... so for a 1.8 cast time activate combustion mid cast around 1.5). This will auto activate your heating up half proc.  Full proc with 1 charge of your Pheonix flames while your fireball is in the air traveling to the target. This will give you your first pyro blast. Use, then continue to full proc off your heating up using your fireblast + Flame On (see talent tree), and finish with your second charge of pheonix flames.  Save your 3rd charge for fill phase.

Recap:

RoP, fireball (pop combustion at 1.5 second cast time), pheonix flames, pyro, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, flame on, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, pheonix flames. 

 

This should maximize your damage, though you will see fluctuations based on raw damage output from your crits and as a result variance in the the trailing DoT damage from ignite.  So changes to your rotation have big implications to your dps output on an encounter.

Hope this helps.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 10/26/2016 at 2:07 PM, Systemgrubby said:

Your Rotation should be as follows:

RoP > fireball (Pop combustion at the end of the cast... so for a 1.8 cast time activate combustion mid cast around 1.5). This will auto activate your heating up half proc.  Full proc with 1 charge of your Pheonix flames while your fireball is in the air traveling to the target. This will give you your first pyro blast. Use, then continue to full proc off your heating up using your fireblast + Flame On (see talent tree), and finish with your second charge of pheonix flames.  Save your 3rd charge for fill phase.

Recap:

RoP, fireball (pop combustion at 1.5 second cast time), pheonix flames, pyro, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, flame on, fireblast, pyro, fireblast, pyro, pheonix flames. 

 

This should maximize your damage, though you will see fluctuations based on raw damage output from your crits and as a result variance in the the trailing DoT damage from ignite.  So changes to your rotation have big implications to your dps output on an encounter.

Hope this helps.

 

You should never cast ROP then Fireball.  You should always have a Hot Streak ready to use when your combustion is up and ready to use.  ROP + Combustion straight into pyro chains.  Casting a Fireball then putting combustion on does 2 things:  One it wastes time on ROP.  Two it isn't going to give you a Hot Streak unless you already have a heating up proc.

 

Maximizing ROP+Combustion is key.  To do that, you must already have a hot streak pyro ready to throw out when you hit combustion.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Friedbones
      I came to Icy Veins to setup my Elemental Shaman only to find your Talent setup does not match what is offered in the game presently.  Below I have listed what I see in my current in-game talent setup and bolded those items that do not match your setup at all.
      Current in-game Talents listed:                                                   Your Listing:                      
      15 Exposed Elements Echo of the Elements Elemental Blast               Earthen Rage 30 Aftershock Master of Elements Totem Mastery       Call the Thunder 45 Spirit Wolf Earth Shield Static Charge         60 High Voltage Storm Elemental Liquid Magma Totem       Master of the Elements 75 Nature's Guardian Ancestral Guidance Wind Rush Totem         90 Earthen Rage Primal Elementalist Icefury       Surge of Power 100 Unlimited Power Stormkeeper Ascendance         I thought someone here should know about these differences because it appears there has been no update recently to your setup.   I know that I personally would appreciate an update so that I can adjust my in-game setup to work better.
    • By positiv2
      This thread is for comments about our Odd Mage guide.
    • By Narii625
      SERVER: Illidan
      RAID TIMES: Fridays & Sundays 10pm - 1am/2am* Server Time (CT)
      CURRENT PROGRESSION: 1/8M 8/8H
      iLVL REQUIREMENT: 365+
       
      CURRENTLY RECRUITING
      Tank Healer Need Holy Paladin All DPS Pref Mage/Shaman for BL ABOUT US
      Currently looking for skilled semi-hardcore raiders for Mythic Uldir and the next raid tier.
      Booty Pirates is a semi-hardcore, close-knit late night guild that hangs out in Discord frequently. We enjoy joking around, playing alts, doing Mythic+, playing other games, or just hanging out. 
      Players wanting just Mythic+ and a casual experience (no raiding) are welcomed!
      Fun guild events are scheduled often!
      TLDR; we're very social with guild members that actually talk to each other. 
      (18+ required, we talk like pirates!)
                *Raid can be extended to 4 hours on Fridays, but will be announced ahead of time.
      JOINING THE BOOTY PIRATES CREW
      Please follow the link below to fill out our app. (For both Raiders and Mythic+/Casual.)
      Start the app here! 
      Battle.net ID: LadyPluu#1299
      In-Game Name: Pluu
    • By Chumani
      Inevitable Destiny   (H)Corrupted Destiny guild Skywall/Drak'thul US realm😎 Hi Raiders! Chu here from CD... We are recruiting raiders currently and max level members for mythic + key runs. We are running TWO raid teams currently... 
      1st team is 8/8H, 1/8M Uldir
      Raid times - 545-8 pst (845-11 est) Sun/Mon/Thurs 
      2nd team is 8/8N, 5/8H
      Raid times - 530-8 pst (830-11est) Friday/Monday
      IMMEDIATE opening for geared resto Sham on 1st team.
      We are one of Skywall's oldest standing guilds and one of Skywalls most active guilds currently. Adult 18+ only. We have a well maintained FB page and Discord server. Mythic keys run constantly. Super fun and friendly guild! Some of us have been here since Vanilla... come and find out what it feels like to join not just a guild but a family!! Come...... Get..... CORRUPTED!!! 
      Chu#12466

    • By Javalvik
      <Exo> is an old guild from Dragonblight which semi-recently transferred to Stormrage in search of mythic raiders. We are a guild full of experienced raiders always looking to expand our roster. 
      We are not a world first guild nor do we aim to be. Our primary goal is to get loot and have a good time, however this still means on progression nights we do expect you to show up, put on your serious face, and kill some shit.
      Our raids are on 3 nights a week; Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday from 9pm-12 Server Time (EST). The Monday raids are optional farm/alt nights (Normal/Heroic) with Tuesday/Wednesday being mandatory progression nights.
      Currently we are in need of any competent DPS, off specs are always a welcome addition but not required. Performance and skill will be looked at above gear, experience, or class.
      We do not have a minimum item level required to join our raid team, however we will require you to catch up in our Monday farm-runs up until you are at a mythic level.
      If you have any questions or are interested in joining or trialing with us please add Pasha#1800, Java#1849 or Bushido#1988 on bnet to talk with an officer.