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Build 22864 was added yesterday on the Public Test Realm, bringing some of the 7.1 class balance changes.

The promised buffs to both Frost Death Knights and Mages are part of this build. Arcane Mages and Affliction Warlocks also got some love, while the previous change to Retribution Paladins' Crusade was reverted after a petition on the forums and on Reddit. The biggest nerf wasn't to a specific class, but to Alchemists since they can now create a batch of 10 of the new potions instead of 20!

Specifically, the class balance changes of Build 22864 include:

Death Knight

  • Howling Blast and Obliterate damage increased for Frost Death Knights.

Hunter

  • An 11% decrease to Aimed Shot damage.

Mage

  • Arcane: Boosts to Arcane Blast, Arcane Explosion, Arcane Missiles and Arcane Orb, but to balance it out the mana cost for the former two spells has been increased.
  • Fire: Pyroblast damage was nerfed from 400 to 376% Spell Power damage. An intresting change was the boost to Flamestrike and Dragon's Breath damage.
  • Frost: The spec received the biggest amount of buffs in this build.

Paladin

  • After a series of long threads on the official forums and on Reddit, the previous 7.1 Crusade change was reverted. Crusade should now work as it did before. We did it, Reddit!

Priest

  • Small adjustments for Discipline.
  • Lots of tweaks to Shadow: some buffs, some nerfs, but the overall feeling leans towards the "nerfs" side.

Warlock

  • Affliction should feel stronger now! Buffs to Agony, Corruption and Unstable Affliction.

Warrior

  • For Fury, the increase to damage taken from Enrage has been lowered. The Warpaint talent has been changed so that you take only 15% (from 20%) increased damage from Enrage.

 

Since there are no patch notes, you can check the detailed numerical changes on MMO-Champion or Wowhead; data from both of these sites was used as a primary source for this article. Bear in mind some of the "balance changes" are just tooltip fixes or bugs.

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Unholy is getting small buffs as well, Death coil damage is being increased but its ultimately statistically irrelevant.

The frost changes are nice but they are ultimately a bandaid. It will mitigate some problems now but later in expac we'll still see same issues re-appear.

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As a Ret player, while I'm happy Crusade was reverted, I still want them to introduce the 7.1 version of Crusade in the future. That Crusade playstyle is very similar to what we had in MoP and WoD when we still had Hammer of Wrath.

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20 minutes ago, Maruken said:

As a Ret player, while I'm happy Crusade was reverted, I still want them to introduce the 7.1 version of Crusade in the future. That Crusade playstyle is very similar to what we had in MoP and WoD when we still had Hammer of Wrath.

I assume you'd want it slightly reworked before being implemented? How would you change it if you would?

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While I'm happy Affliction is getting buffed, I'd much rather know whether they're going to rework the three Warlock specs at all. They're not great. At all.

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10 minutes ago, Weltenfeind said:

While I'm happy Affliction is getting buffed, I'd much rather know whether they're going to rework the three Warlock specs at all. They're not great. At all.

I think a big rework is very unlikely at this stage of the expansion, just smaller changes. It's unfortunate, but you'll probably have to wait for a big pre-patch or new expansion for them to change a lot.

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4 minutes ago, Blainie said:

I think a big rework is very unlikely at this stage of the expansion, just smaller changes. It's unfortunate, but you'll probably have to wait for a big pre-patch or new expansion for them to change a lot.

That's what I figure, which is why I'm letting my sub run out. I'm just done. There were plenty of feedback during alpha and beta on serveral classes and it was ignored. So I guess you could go back to my other post you quoted and mark it as "not completed". :p

 

Edit: I'm not saying the expansion is bad. I still think they did a good job with Legion as a whole. It's just if my class isn't satisfying to play, I really couldn't be bothered.

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2 hours ago, Weltenfeind said:

I'm not saying the expansion is bad. I still think they did a good job with Legion as a whole. It's just if my class isn't satisfying to play, I really couldn't be bothered.

I honestly had this issue with my first class rolls. I've just been levelling characters trying to find something I honestly enjoy. It wasn't what I intended, but I've now given up on my main of 11+ years (Warrior) to pursue playing Monk/DH. I absolutely love it. I honestly don't think I could swap off to another class now, these 2 are just perfect. 

It might be worth checking out another class before it runs out?

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31 minutes ago, Blainie said:

I honestly had this issue with my first class rolls. I've just been levelling characters trying to find something I honestly enjoy. It wasn't what I intended, but I've now given up on my main of 11+ years (Warrior) to pursue playing Monk/DH. I absolutely love it. I honestly don't think I could swap off to another class now, these 2 are just perfect. 

It might be worth checking out another class before it runs out?

The thing is: I have a warrior up now, but it's not that appealing to me because Fury was what I played before, and it's not really doing super well either. I have a rogue as well, which I used to main, but this expansion I felt like I needed to play ranged because I've always been melee. And the fantasy of Warlock is exaclty what I love, and it feels kind of awful to want to play the idea of a class but the specs/reality don't exactly measure up. Warlock is the only ranged class that appeals to me.

Edit: I know it seems like I'm being stubborn, but I've essentially done the same as you: I leveled my rogue first, then warrior, then warlock and then a balance druid. Maybe it's just WoW fatigue.

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19 hours ago, Blainie said:

I assume you'd want it slightly reworked before being implemented? How would you change it if you would?

Sorry for late reply, I'm not on here much.

I really like the Judgment variation of Crusade, and I don't think it needs changing. What I would do though is give players a choice between the two Crusades. Holy Wrath is already next to useless in PvE, we could send it to the PvP tree and have the Judgment Crusade take its place on the PvE tree.

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On 10/21/2016 at 3:20 PM, Weltenfeind said:

I know it seems like I'm being stubborn, but I've essentially done the same as you: I leveled my rogue first, then warrior, then warlock and then a balance druid. Maybe it's just WoW fatigue.

I understand the feeling, it can be really horrible to just keep trying out different classes. Maybe it's worth trying out a Demon Hunter? The lore isn't exactly the same as a Warlock, but it does hold some similarities. They play fairly nicely, they're not in a bad spot right now, they have some fun utility.. It might be worth a last try!

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9 hours ago, Maruken said:

Sorry for late reply, I'm not on here much.

I really like the Judgment variation of Crusade, and I don't think it needs changing. What I would do though is give players a choice between the two Crusades. Holy Wrath is already next to useless in PvE, we could send it to the PvP tree and have the Judgment Crusade take its place on the PvE tree.

No worries! :)

A good suggestion, though. 

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5 minutes ago, Blainie said:

I understand the feeling, it can be really horrible to just keep trying out different classes. Maybe it's worth trying out a Demon Hunter? The lore isn't exactly the same as a Warlock, but it does hold some similarities. They play fairly nicely, they're not in a bad spot right now, they have some fun utility.. It might be worth a last try!

Honestly speaking, it might be stubborness. Because it annoys me to no end that the feedback was given during alpha and beta, and it was also ignored. I honestly haven't spoken to a single warlock yet who likes any of the specs, though someone probably likes them. :p

I played the DH during beta, and actually liked the utility and mobility, but the dashing thing also got annoying for me in the rotation. Maybe I'll retry it.

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10 hours ago, Weltenfeind said:

Honestly speaking, it might be stubborness. Because it annoys me to no end that the feedback was given during alpha and beta, and it was also ignored. I honestly haven't spoken to a single warlock yet who likes any of the specs, though someone probably likes them. :p

I played the DH during beta, and actually liked the utility and mobility, but the dashing thing also got annoying for me in the rotation. Maybe I'll retry it.

I can understand your frustration, it does suck to feel like you're not being listened to, I agree. I really think it's worth giving that DH a try before giving up though! Let me know how it goes!

I really hope it does work out.

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I cant seem to find the Build 22864 patch notes anywhere but so far from the above it looks like Fury warrior will go from bottom five dps to the bottom!  At least theres always that other spec that Blizzard hates to keep us company at the bottom, Ele Shaman.

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12 hours ago, DaltonIsPanda said:

God, they really hate MM. Don't they?

They will until it's a Mage spec! :D

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20 hours ago, Snichy said:

I cant seem to find the Build 22864 patch notes anywhere but so far from the above it looks like Fury warrior will go from bottom five dps to the bottom!  At least theres always that other spec that Blizzard hates to keep us company at the bottom, Ele Shaman.

Hopefully once Nighthold hits, Fury will skyrocket to the top!

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On 23/10/2016 at 6:17 AM, Blainie said:

I can understand your frustration, it does suck to feel like you're not being listened to, I agree. I really think it's worth giving that DH a try before giving up though! Let me know how it goes!

I really hope it does work out.

Well, I stuck to my Demo Warlock. It's ok, but not super appealing, however after the 7.1.5 announcement at Blizzcon with them taking a pass at class talents and rotations I'm definitely more optimistic about the future of Legion and WoW as whole. Shows they're atleast trying and listening. ^^

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1 hour ago, Weltenfeind said:

Well, I stuck to my Demo Warlock. It's ok, but not super appealing, however after the 7.1.5 announcement at Blizzcon with them taking a pass at class talents and rotations I'm definitely more optimistic about the future of Legion and WoW as whole. Shows they're atleast trying and listening. ^^

Glad to hear that you stuck around! I can only hope the changes are what you're looking for :(

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