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Quick question, looking for some input. I added my armory link just for reference in case anyone wants to take a look. I have been dumping +160 Agility gems into almost everything, which I assume would help my DPS more than doing a different gem in those red slots. However, I'm wondering if using any crit gems that would fit might be more beneficial. Any raiding hunters have any advice on gems I should swap?

(My reforging is all from ReforgeLite, I just kept the default settings for Survival on the addon.)

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Ok so unless a bonus is a lot of secondary stat, such as your helm bonus, it should be 160Agil, ofc is its 60 or more agil bonus, go for the bonus.

Looking at your gear, if you can replace any item with hit already on it for something without, that will be a dps increase.

You are over hit cap yet under expertise cap, one way to rectify this would be your weapon, reforge hit > crit (drops your hit and raises your exp, a step in the right direction).

I can understand why you have stam gems, and until you can replace any hit gear, keep with it.

Saying that, for your weapon you will get more dmg out of a pure agility gem and forget the bonus, same goes for cloak. I would even go as far to say put pure agil gems in your chest too. 220agil +240Stam vs 320 agil ... I would rather have the extra 100agil than 1-2k extra health. There are very very few times where that little extra health will be the difference between you living and dying.

Again, ring, pure agility. You are putting this inequality in play 220crit>80agil ... well for most SV gear set ups, agil is would 5dps per point and crit only 1.5 or something similar.

22crit>8agil

33crit>40agil

For 220crit>80agil you would need ratings something like this 2.75dps per crit compared to 5dps per agil.

The belt bonus is getting close to very insignificant differences but I suspect agility would still be better until you have more realPPM trinkets/meta gem.

I hope this help and apologies for picking your character apart, I have tried to explain my reasoning and would be more than happy to discuss this further.

Also http://www.femaledwarf.com/ is your friend! It allows you to fully customise your gear to find the optimal set up and gives you personalised dps raitings per stat rather thans the generalised rating you would have in ReforgeLite (this is great as you can use the femaledwarf ones IN ReforgeLite, making proper use of it)

This may be useful for you sto see the applied decisions on gems;

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kilrogg/xinto/advanced I'd be more than happy to justify why I have made each gem choice.

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Quick question, looking for some input. I added my armory link just for reference in case anyone wants to take a look. I have been dumping +160 Agility gems into almost everything, which I assume would help my DPS more than doing a different gem in those red slots. However, I'm wondering if using any crit gems that would fit might be more beneficial. Any raiding hunters have any advice on gems I should swap?

(My reforging is all from ReforgeLite, I just kept the default settings for Survival on the addon.)

Basically most of your gems are good, except for a few. The ones in your cloak, chest, bow, and ring should all be just agi gems. You are losing a lot of agi by gemming agi/stam gems in the sockets. They don't make up for the socket bonus and it's just a waste. You also have a green gem in your bow. You should never even think about touching gems of anything that isn't a combination of red/something else. If you can use all the hit, then agi/hit gems would be fine in the purple sockets. The only time it would be worth it to gem stam or wasted (all 160) hit for the socket bonus is if it's equal or greater to 80 agi per gem used. So on your chest you are getting 60 agi per gem used, but you were losing 80 per gem.

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I really appreciate the help guys! I'll check out Femaledwarf, and I'm autorunning to the AH as we speak for new gems lol. :)

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