Nyoron

Fire Mage (Myth) looking for help with logs

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Greetings Mages of IcyVeins,

i am seeking your help to compare a guildmate of mine to my own performance.

He is doing significantly more DMG than me and i can't see why that is.

Would someone be so Kind as to compare Erdin with Juvîa please?

My Char is Juvîa, Erdin is my Guildmate.

 

Arsenal:

Erdin: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/theradras/Erdin/simple

Juvîa: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dethecus/Juvîa/simple

 

Logs:

Nythendra Myth: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jybH6AN7C9dpRVmr#fight=1

Ursoc Myth: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jybH6AN7C9dpRVmr#

 

 

Let's compare the fights:

 

Nythendra
  Erdin Juvîa
Pyro 77 63
Fireball 60 42
Flame Blast 34 31
PF 14 14
RoP 9 8
Combustion 4 3

Ursoc
  Erdin Juvîa
Pyro 66 61
Fireball 66 37
Flame Blast 30 33
PF 12 12
RoP 8 7
Combustion 4 3

 

Hints:

- I got less FB casts because of my Legendary Belt (i use Scorch <25% Boss HP)

- I am "missing" one Combustion because of Cinderstorm instead of Kindling (-> Legendary Belt again)
 

What i noticed:

- His Pyros crit more often (Nythendra in this case) -> better Heating Up Conversion

- he casts Pyro more often - not sure how (because of HU-Conversion?)

- i could be using Ice Flows more often

- i am missing one RoP each fight in this example log

- His DMG on Ursoc partially comes from Dragon's Breath + Ruby on the Add

I recently discovered the following tool. Not sure how accurate it is however:

http://www.checkmywow.com/reports/jybH6AN7C9dpRVmr/73430163/1?tab=basic

 

My Conclusion:

There are smal differences in the basic Rotation which should result in rather small DMG gap.

My Confusion: (see what i did there? :D)

The DMG gap is huge..?

 

I would love to hear your opinion. Maybe i am missing something significant?

If you need more logs or anything else, feel free to let me know.

Thank all of you in advance!! :)

(Please be kind, english is not my primary language)

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Honestly, it's because of Cinderstorm. The spell doesn't contribute to Hot Streaks, and you use a pretty good number of pyroblasts during combusts.

I know this is subject to change in 7.1.5, but I also have that belt and still do not replace Fireball with Scorch unless I absolutely have to move. Scorch does not benefit from the Enhanced Pyrotechnics, so if you begin to have a bad streak of noncrits, the anti-RNG will never kick in to save you. And for that very reason you took Cinderstorm in place of Kindling, it doesn't benefit Kindling in any way. And Kindling is just too strong, which is what is being displayed by the very comparison you have brought before us today.

 

Also on Nythendra he used some Flamestrikes on the MC pack. Which from a pure dps standpoint is a good idea, but it also applies that 50% slow, so unless your group has a Mass dispel ready after every MC anyways I would say is probably hurting a bit more than helping, as it will make it harder for the group to be spread out for the next rot wave and cause avoidable stacks. Just my 2 cents on that one.

 

Honestly you're hurting yourself trying to utilize a legendary that in the current patch is kinda lackluster. Replacing Fireball with Scorch means dropping one of the strongest single target talents available, just look at rankings for every fight, there's not  single Cinderstorm build in the top 10 on any fight in mythic . Those extra combust phases are too strong to pass up and Cinderstorm, while hitting slightly harder than a pyro if all cinders hit, does not apply the double Ignite from the Hot Streak so the overall damage of it is a bit lower.

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Hello Tehril,

thanks for your respone. I never liked Cinderstorm tbh. The only reason i am using it is because Scorch doesn't work with Kindling. I will run a few tests to see if it is better not to use Scorch even with the legendary. That would solve the Cinderstorm problem aswell.

Koralon's is better on the PTR right now. We will see when 7.1.5 is released. :)

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