Stan

Legion Developer Q/A Recap: January 12

Sign in to follow this  

14 posts in this topic

aSskKAc.jpg

Senior Game Designer Paul Kubit sat down with Josh "Lore" Allen and we learned some interesting information. Timewalking raids are in the works and Patch 7.2 is hitting test realms soon.

Auction House

  • Blizzard keeps monitoring items that are too expensive and adjusts the cost.
  • Specifically, Tome of the Tranquil MindTome of the Tranquil Mind was mentioned as being too expensive.

Brawler's Guild

  • No plans to add any new bosses to the Brawler's Guild this expansion.
  • The difficulty curve is good as early bosses are accessible by most players and later encounters prove to be more challenging.
  • No Boss Health adjustments have been made for specific specializations.

Professions

  • The team is happy with primary profession quests involving dungeons.
  • Materials aren't cheap in Legion, because they need to be gathered as there is no Garrison. Another contributing factor that affects prices is banning botters.

Recipes (Rank 3)

  • Rank 3 recipes could be made less rare at the end of Legion.
  • Having a rank 3 recipe helps players make a little more profit.
  • There's no problem with RNG and rank 3 recipes, you can still craft that item even if you don't have it.

Crafted Gear

  • ObliterumObliterum upgrades help to keep crafted gear relevant.
  • With increasing item level on gear, crafted items need to stay relevant throughout the expansion.
  • Patch 7.1.5 added Engineering Goggles.
  • Patch 7.2 will add many new recipes for both primary and secondary professions.
  • There will be no items that will help you reroll secondary stats on crafted gear. If you need different stats you have to craft another item.

Primary Professions

Gathering Professions

  • A third slot for a gathering profession is something considered, but players that want an additional slot just don't want to get rid of their existing professions.

Engineering

  • The goggles introduced in 7.1.5 have the highest item level of craftable items so far in Legion (880) and take time to craft.
  • They have random stats.
  • You can either farm or buy Hardened FelglassHardened Felglass.

Skinning

  • The team wants to make skinnable NPCs multi tap.

Secondary Professions

  • Archaeology
    • The profession isn't supposed to be an endless grind and Patch 7.2 will make Archaeology better (new mounts and pets?).
  • Cooking
    • As there were many quests for primary professions, the team didn't want the same to happen with secondary professions and overload players with too many quests.
    • Nomi is perhaps too random, but in 7.1.5, the chance to get new recipes has been significantly increased.

Obliterum

  • The bracers gating behind the Obliterum Forge will be reduced in a future patch.

Micro-Holidays

  • Call of the Scarab is the first micro-holiday on live realms starting January 21.
  • There are no permanent rewards from micro-holidays, because of their short duration.
  • It's a cool idea to use them for leveling.

Patch 7.2

  • Is hitting Public Test Realms soon.

Timewalking

  • Is here to make content from two or more expansions relevant again.
  • The devs are discussing an item level increase on Timewalked gear.
  • No Scholomance during MoP Timewalking, it revolves around MoP dungeons situated in Pandaria.
  • The team hasn't considered to bring Vanilla Timewalking as the content isn't challenging and tuned for max level players.
    • It doesn't mean it couldn't be added in the future, but it's not a priority right now.
  • Timewalking Raids are coming in the future.

Weekly Bonus Events

  • Keeping Timewalking rare helps making it great.
  • The team is observing the weekly events and will remove those unpopular.

VoD

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, Timewalking dungeons = at-level Heroic, except you don't outgear it as much as you may have back then.

Does this mean Timewalking raids = Heroic difficulty at-level? ;p That could potentially be a really big mess if this was done through LFR haha. They may just make a Raid Finder difficulty for those old raids that is tuned lower than the original difficulty so that LFR can do it, but it would be really cool if you could choose to enter Normal or Heroic difficulty with a premade group (with increased ilv rewards as usual.)

Although now that I think about it, the weekly nature of Timewalking means that these wouldn't really be viable as guild content; you can't really progress on a raid that only lasts a week and doesn't come back until months later.

Edited by Ammako

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Professions are abysmal. If they are happy with the state of professions they are clueless. Instead of comparing them to the last expansion, why don't they compare them to earlier expansions as well?

I'd much rather have professions be part of the RPG experience and not merely something you do to make gold. I don't feel like any of them are truly unique to a specific class, as far as armor, weapons, etc., are concerned. If I'm a plate armor wearing class, I'd like mining and blacksmithing to have a little more significance. Not as merely a means to get a rare mount or create a unique pet.

Timewalking does not really make previous content relevant because it has nothing to do with what's going on in the current expansion. It's also way too easy.

Edited by ChaosDecides

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, ChaosDecides said:

Professions are abysmal. If they are happy with the state of professions they are clueless. Instead of comparing them to the last expansion, why don't they compare them to earlier expansions as well?

I'd much rather have professions be part of the RPG experience and not merely something you do to make gold.

Did you think the questing process and such was good for professions or not?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, Stan said:

Professions

  • The team is happy with primary profession quests involving dungeons.

I am perfectly happy with professions involving dungeons.  As well as the fact that there actually are profession quests.  It brings a different aspect into the game that gives you something to do other than mindlessly grind quests, dungeons, and pvp like we have had to in the past just to pass the time. 

13 hours ago, Stan said:

Crafted Gear

  • ObliterumObliterum upgrades help to keep crafted gear relevant.
  • With increasing item level on gear, crafted items need to stay relevant throughout the expansion.

I personally appreciate what Blizzard is trying to do but I completely disagree.  I don't think that crafted items need to stay relevant throughout the expansion because crafted items have always been a stepping stone with the exception of key resistance items in Vanilla and the crafted gear in WoD.  I think that crafted gear should plateau around Heroic/Mythic difficulty and further gear upgrades should come from raids, mythic+, and pvp content.

13 hours ago, Stan said:

Skinning

  • The team wants to make skinnable NPCs multi tap.

I think this is a phenomenal idea, especially with the changes to lootable NPCs being multi tap.

14 hours ago, Stan said:

Timewalking

  • Is here to make content from two or more expansions relevant again.
  • The devs are discussing an item level increase on Timewalked gear.
  • No Scholomance during MoP Timewalking, it revolves around MoP dungeons situated in Pandaria.
  • The team hasn't considered to bring Vanilla Timewalking as the content isn't challenging and tuned for max level players.
    • It doesn't mean it couldn't be added in the future, but it's not a priority right now.
  • Timewalking Raids are coming in the future.

Timewalking isn't really relevant, as it has no bearing on current content and is only around as a weekly event to try to keep players interested in the game.  Timewalked gear, in my opinion, should be about the level of heroic dungeons.  Vanilla timewalking dungeons would be super fun if they were in the old style and not this "run through pull the whole dungeon kill it all at once" philosophy.  Not considering to bring Vanilla timewalking in to the picture because the content isn't challenging and tuned for max level players is horsecrap because neither are any prior expansions to the current one.  All expansions from Vanilla to WoD are no longer challenging and tuned to for max level, the dungeons even during timewalking phases aren't challenging and tuned for max level.  Timewalking raids.... there's so much wrong there.  Interesting concept but unless executed perfectly will spell disaster for the entire timewalking platform.

 

TL;DR  Professions are fine, crafted gear should be a stepping stone, yay for skinning multi tap, timewalking is a novel idea but not a challenge.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not tuned for max level because for the most part, dungeons were levelling content (there were only a few like LBRS that were relevant at max level, to get dungeon tier gear which was a stepping stone to the regular raids.)

BC dungeons had Heroic difficulty which very much was tuned for Lv. 70 players. Same for WotLK, same for Cata, same for MoP. To make Vanilla timewalking dungeons they would have to go back and design Lv. 60 versions of every dungeon, properly tuned for 60. Hence they haven't considered it, but it can be done in the future.

"Timewalking raids.... there's so much wrong there.  Interesting concept but unless executed perfectly will spell disaster for the entire timewalking platform" , elaborate, you can say "there's so much wrong here" but if you don't really have compelling reasons for saying so then it doesn't really mean anything.

Edited by Ammako

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Ammako said:

"Timewalking raids.... there's so much wrong there.  Interesting concept but unless executed perfectly will spell disaster for the entire timewalking platform" , elaborate, you can say "there's so much wrong here" but if you don't really have compelling reasons for saying so then it doesn't really mean anything.

It doesn't have to "really mean anything" to you.  It was a statement plain and simple.

Since you brought it up though, let's explore.

Timewalking dungeons are currently old world dungeon content that has been tuned so that players at least one expansion beyond the content are tuned down to that level.  This in itself is fine as it puts players in content that should be the same level as them.  The problem with this is that you can't accurately tune stats down to duplicate the experience when the dungeons were current content due to current stat scaling.  This means that PCs that meet the level requirements of the timewalking content are over powered compared to someone that would actually be running that content as current.

This is where timewalking being a novel concept yet not being anything more than a nostalgia run comes in to play.  If we take these same principles and apply them to Timewalking raids then you are looking at people running old world raid content without the difficulty of what a raid is supposed to be.  Raids are by design progressive content.  Example: 10 players get together to run a 9 boss raid dungeon for the first time.  They engage the first boss, and shortly after wipe.  6 tries later they manage to down the boss.  They then progress to and engage the second boss which takes 10 tries due to increase in difficulty.  This pattern continues until eventually they have managed to get all 9 bosses down.  In the process most of them have received an item upgrade that would significantly increase their damage and ability to perform the next week.  This process continues throughout normal, heroic, and mythic difficulties until these 10 players are able to basically walk through every fight with zero issues and one-shot kills every time.

Since, currently timewalking dungeons are not a challenge due to tuning and stat scaling, how would they actually make timewalking raids a challenge? and as you said...

15 hours ago, Ammako said:

Although now that I think about it, the weekly nature of Timewalking means that these wouldn't really be viable as guild content; you can't really progress on a raid that only lasts a week and doesn't come back until months later.

You can't really progress in something that's only available for a short time every so often.

In order to not have a complete disaster on their hands my suggestion would be have timewalking raids open for a month, able to join via group finder, and overtune the raids to compensate for the undertuning of dungeons.

And personally I'm not sure why you felt compelled to question my statement when I agreed with your statements in fewer words.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, DeathsDesign said:

Not considering to bring Vanilla timewalking in to the picture because the content isn't challenging and tuned for max level players is horsecrap because neither are any prior expansions to the current one.  All expansions from Vanilla to WoD are no longer challenging and tuned to for max level, the dungeons even during timewalking phases aren't challenging and tuned for max level.

My thoughts exactly. 

I would say that the entire timwalker process is awfully easy, although I recognize its probably just for levelling and max level boredom busters via old content, pets and mounts and xmog. 

But the reasoning they dont do it at all, is that it's "too easy" is mind boggling.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, DeathsDesign said:

And personally I'm not sure why you felt compelled to question my statement when I agreed with your statements in fewer words.

So because part of your post agreed with me, means that your entire post does? ;) That's not really how it works.

I'm saying that they can't work as progression content if they are weekly. Just because they can't be proper guild progression content doesn't mean it can't work fine as LFR.

You're saying that "it would be a complete disaster for the entire timewalking platform" which is a completely different point of view altogether.

1 hour ago, PatrickHenry said:

But the reasoning they dont do it at all, is that it's "too easy" is mind boggling.

That is a gross oversimplification of their reasoning.

Edited by Ammako

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well considering when I read your post I didn't have any reason to disagree with it at all would be an indicator that I agreed with you, therefore my statement agreed with you.  Either way I'm not going to get into a who's what is better.  I stand by what I said whether you agree, understand, like, dislike, disapprove of, or whatever, It is what it is.

And it's not a different point all together because of the fact that overall the current timewalking platform is just kind of hanging on.  If you fail to implement timewalking raids properly it impacts the "overall" (not the individuals but the mass's) view of the timewalking platform.  Fail one aspect most people in today's society will see the entire project as a failure and lose faith in it.  Succeed in every aspect and it's a working model.

Personally I'm not a fan of timewalking period.  I do it to get the weekly quest done and I'm over it.  However that doesn't mean I can't see the benefit of it and it's purpose.  Just because I don't like something doesn't mean it's wrong or a trash idea.  It just means that I'll find other means to occupy my time instead.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/13/2017 at 6:36 AM, Blainie said:

Did you think the questing process and such was good for professions or not?

The questing process was fine. I would have rather had to unlock 800 through a quest chain than to be forced to create expensive items with a low probability of increasing the prof level. When all recipes are either greyed out or green, and the mats needed to craft the items are incredibly expensive, trying to get the final 10 or so levels is just masochistic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/15/2017 at 3:17 PM, ChaosDecides said:

The questing process was fine. I would have rather had to unlock 800 through a quest chain than to be forced to create expensive items with a low probability of increasing the prof level. When all recipes are either greyed out or green, and the mats needed to craft the items are incredibly expensive, trying to get the final 10 or so levels is just masochistic.

Yeah, I'd definitely agree on that. Having to funnel guild funds at one person (we spent nearly a million on 1 person's professions at the start of the xpac) simply due to ridiculous bad luck on skill ups just kinda sucks.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/12/2017 at 7:06 PM, Stan said:

The team hasn't considered to bring Vanilla Timewalking as the content isn't challenging and tuned for max level players.

 

On 1/13/2017 at 4:41 PM, Ammako said:

That is a gross oversimplification of their reasoning.

Hey, I can only go by what was stated originally. 

...and that sure sounds like "too easy." 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/16/2017 at 7:40 AM, Blainie said:

Yeah, I'd definitely agree on that. Having to funnel guild funds at one person (we spent nearly a million on 1 person's professions at the start of the xpac) simply due to ridiculous bad luck on skill ups just kinda sucks.

Dude, that's insane.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Starym
      Some more info has arrived on the planned class/spec changes coming in 8.1, more specifically coming with the next PTR deploy. This time around it's Shadow Priests that get a good once-over, focusing on Voidform, better defenses and utility. From Voidform getting a bigger spell damage buff, smaller Insanity increase and generation, to Dispersion being buffed to 75% reduction and now also adding a movement speed buff, Shadowform's damage reduction being replaced, a lot of talent adjustments, including a brand new one, and a lot more:
      Shadow Priests 8.1 PTR (source)
      The next PTR build includes some changes to Shadow Priest with the following goals: Make Voidform matter more, make staying in Voidform longer matter more, and give the player more agency over extending its duration Improve Shadow’s defensive power and utility
      Make Voidform Matter More
      Moving into Battle for Azeroth, we consciously reduced the maximum power of Voidforms, for the purpose of evening out Shadow’s heavily backloaded Voidform cycle damage. This had some positive impacts, which many of you are aware of – mainly this greatly reduced the harsh penalty for dropping out of Voidform early – a common occurrence in any content outside of raids, including dungeons or questing. That said, we think we went a little too far with peeling power off of Voidform , which has resulted in Voidform not feeling impactful enough, and with not enough reason to work to extend it. We are easing this change back a bit: Voidform increases spell damage by 20% (up from 10%) Insanity drain increase per second in Voidform reduced by 15% Void Bolt Insanity generation increased by 25%
      Dispersion
      Dispersion’s damage reduction has been increased to 75% (up from 60%). We agree that because it comes with the penalty of not being able to cast spells, it deserves to be stronger. Additionally, it now increases movement speed by 50%.

      A new talent Intangibility replaces Mania (which was similar to and far less popular than Body and Soul), and reduces Dispersion’s cooldown by 25% and causes it to heal you for 50% of your maximum health over its duration.

      Shadowform’s Physical Damage Reduction
      Shadowform's 10% physical damage reduction was intended to feel like a bonus to Shadowform, but instead felt like a penalty to Voidform , since you lose that defensive benefit going into Voidform.

      We’re replacing this bonus from Shadowform with the Focused Will passive (which the other two Priest specs already have), causing melee abilities and attacks to reduce all damage taken by 15% for 8 sec.

      Hallucinations
      Hallucinations (the PvP talent) is becoming a baseline passive, and allows your successful Dispel Magic, Mass Dispel, Purify Disease, Vampiric Embrace, and Power Word: Shield casts to generate 6 Insanity (same amount per cast as your filler, Mind Flay).

      This give you more freedom to use your on-global cooldown utility buttons, especially in Voidform , without incurring as much damage loss, since Insanity is constantly draining.

      Other talent adjustments worth mentioning: Mind Bomb and Psychic Scream now take 40% longer to break from damage. Void Torrent generates 30 Insanity over its duration and deals 20% increased damage. Additionally, no longer requires Voidform to cast, so you can choose to use it on a priority damage target at any time. Lingering Insanity fades every 3 sec instead of every 2 sec. Surrender to Madness cooldown reduced by 33% and penalty duration reduced by 50%.
    • By Starym
      It seems Rextroy and his 19 Paladin buddies did a lot more than just protect as they continue their travels in Uldir. This time around we get to see their fight with Heroic Mythrax and the group actually had to reduce their number as they couldn't spread properly with 30 Palas.

      It's always great to see this type of thing, showing that there's a lot more to WoW than just chasing item levels and Azerite traits (and then complaining about it endlessly). There are plenty of fun and creative things to do in the game, even when/if the game itself isn't in the best of places in general, it just requires removing oneself from the grind mentality and taking a look at what else there is to do in Azeroth.
       
    • By Stan
      Blizzard shared some details about what to expect from the WoW Classic Demo that will be available to BlizzCon attendees and Virtual Ticket holders in November.
      WoW Classic Demo will be available to BlizzCon attendees as well as Virtual Ticket holders. You can get your Virtual Ticket here. All players will start at level 15 and two zones will be available for testing: Barrens for the Horde and Westfall for the Alliance. The legendary Barrens chat is back and players will be able to search for Mankrik's wife. The Deadmines & Wailing Caverns will not be open for testing. The only PvP available will be dueling. Given the time constraints of a BlizzCon demo, they want you to explore and experiment with core systems which is why characters won't start at level 1. Character level is capped at 19. You'll be able to download the demo through the Blizzard Battle.net desktop app. Support of 32-bit clients has been removed. Don't worry if you can't play WoW Classic Demo on November 2-3, servers will remain up even after BlizzCon.
      Blizzard (Source)
      Hello World of Warcraft community! With BlizzCon 2018 getting closer every day, we wanted to give you an update on what you’ll be experiencing at BlizzCon around WoW Classic. We’ve been hard at work on bringing the original Azeroth back to life, and we’re excited that you’ll be able to get your hands on the demo we’re creating for the show—both at BlizzCon and at home with the Virtual Ticket.
      WHAT TO EXPECT
      From the beginning of this project, the team’s mission has been to be as faithful as possible to World of Warcraft as it existed back in 2005 and 2006, before Cataclysm altered the world as we knew it—and we wanted to make sure the demo we built for the show was a clear reflection of that. The focus of the demo is on outdoor questing, and we’ve selected two iconic zones that most original WoW players will no doubt be familiar with—Barrens for the Horde and Westfall for the Alliance—so you can step back in time and experience these zones as they were originally designed. You’ll be able to search for Mankrik’s wife, curse at Ornery Plainstriders for not having beaks, and make a group to kill Defias Pillagers in Moonbrook. You might even get to improvise a new rotation against the Harvest Golems in Farmer Saldean’s farm, since in this era, mechanical creatures may be immune to some of your abilities. We brought all of that back, and we’re as excited about it as you are.
      Because it’s a demo, there’ll will be some limitations on the content: the Deadmines and Wailing Caverns dungeons won’t be available, the only PvP will be dueling, and you won’t be able to visit zones other than Westfall and the Barrens.  We also typically limit the time our BlizzCon attendees can play a demo, and that will be the case for BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo players at home. In order to maximize the number of people who can try out the demo, initially you’ll be logged off after playing for a certain amount of time to give somebody else a turn. We haven’t determined exactly how long this time limit will be yet, but we’re also planning some flexibility, so if we’re able to relax the restriction and still give everyone who wants to play a great experience, then we’ll do that. If you do find your session has ended before you’ve done everything you wanted to, don’t worry—your character will be there when you get back in for your next session, and all your progress will be saved.
      You’ll start the demo at level 15. While we know that starting at level 1 holds a lot of nostalgia, you’re also limited in what you can do when you’re first starting out. Given the time constraints of a BlizzCon demo, we wanted to give players some freedom to explore and experiment with core systems like talents or professions, which are unavailable at level 1. We also wanted you to be able to get a good sense of the original class played. At Level 15, warriors have Defensive Stance, priests have Psychic Scream, hunters have their pet, and so on—so at this level you really start to feel like your class has some of the key tools that make the class distinct. Additionally, all characters will be capped at Level 19. But you can create multiple characters, so you can try out as many different classes and races as you’d like!
      WHAT’S “NEW”
      As we mentioned in our original Dev Watercooler blog we posted in June, we’re building WoW Classic on the foundation of our modern code base. That means you’ll be able to download the demo through the Blizzard Battle.net desktop app and use Battle.net chat integration in-game to ask your friend to come check out the Barrens with you. You’ll also find there’s improved support for widescreen monitors—so instead of the world looking stretched and distorted in widescreen, it’ll look like it did on your old 4:3 monitor. Only bigger!
      All of the current game’s tools that help ensure World of Warcraft is a welcoming and fair environment, such as right-click player reporting, will also be in the BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo. Cheats, bots, and other exploitive behavior will also not be allowed, and the modern engine no longer permits some behaviors that could be used to get out of bounds. Support for 32-bit clients has also been removed. One of our core values is “Play nice; play fair,” and we want to do everything we can to ensure a few bad apples don’t ruin the experience for others.
      You’ll also find that post-launch accessibility options such as colorblind mode are in the demo—though as we were working on it, we realized some words and images used in the current Accessibility panel come from the modern game. So we replaced the modern icons with some classic icons, and removed the term “Heirloom” since it doesn’t appear anywhere else in WoW Classic. It’s important to us that in situations like this we blend the old and the new in such a way that it still looks and feels like the game you remember.
      SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER!
      We’re really excited about the BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo, and hope you are too! But we definitely don’t want to send the message that we’re done, because we’re not. There’s still lots of work left do, and the BlizzCon demo is an important step in the process of bringing the original WoW back to life as authentically as we can. This is a great chance for you to see the direction we’re heading and give us some early feedback, so be sure to leave your thoughts in the Classic section of the WoW forums.
      Thanks for playing, and we’ll see you in Azeroth!
    • By Stan
      Game Director Ion Hazzikostas confirmed in the latest Q&A that they're going to increase the amount of reputation gained from Legion world quests to make unlocking Allied Races easier in Patch 8.1. We went to the Broken Isles and Argus to check this out and report back with our findings.
      Legion Allied Races Unlock Requirements
      Legion Allied Races include Highmountain Tauren, Lightforged Draenei, Nightborne, and Void Elves. The unlock requirements remain relatively unchanged. You need to be Exalted with four Legion factions and complete their story that's tied to a specific zone. For example, Lightforged Draenei and Void Elves are tied to Argus, Highmountain Tauren to Highmountain, and Nightborne to Suramar.
      Allied Race Requirements Highmountain Tauren Ain't No Mountain High Enough + Exalted with Highmountain Tribe  Lightforged Draenei You Are Now Prepared! + Exalted with Army of the Light Nightborne Insurrection + Exalted with the Nightfallen Void Elf You Are Now Prepared! + Exalted with Argussian Reach The amount of reputation from Legion world quests will be doubled in Patch 8.1.
      If you played in Legion, chances are you've unlocked them all and the catchup is mostly for new players that have to complete outdated content in order to unlock them.
      As of 8.1 Build 28151, Blizzard only doubled the reputation gains from world quests on Argus, which means that unlocking Lightforged Draenei and Void Elves is going to take less time.
      We went to Argus and can confirm that world quests, which previously rewarded 75 reputation, now give 150 reputation with Argus factions.

      We can't, however, confirm this to be the case for world quests in Highmountain or Suramar. Currently, they award the same amount of reputation as on live servers.
      WANTED: Oreth the Vile in Suramar rewarded 150 reputation with The Wardens & The Nightfallen.

      In the Thick of It world quest rewarded 250 reputation with The Nightfallen and the world quest at Tel'anor just 75 reputation.

      We believe this is intended, because you already receive a lot of rep with The Nightfallen by completing their questline and from various world quests in Suramar.
      They didn't increase rep gains from world quests in Highmountain either. We completed Return to the River and Stonebinder Bounty. Both quests awarded 75 reputation each with Highmountain Tribe.

      TL;DR
      Ion said that they're going to double the amount of reputation gained from Legion world quests. As of 8.1 PTR Build 28151, only Argussian Reach & Army of the Light world quests give double reputation. We don't know if it's intended to increase rep gains from Broken Isles world quests in future 8.1 PTR builds, because you gain plenty of reputation with the factions just by completing their questlines. For the latest Patch 8.1 information, check out our Tides of Vengeance hub!
    • By Blainie
      We've joined forces with exceL Esports to support their first WoW team!
      With the MDI All-Stars event at Blizzcon just around the corner, we felt this was the perfect time to announce our partnership with exceL Esports and their Mythic+ team, exceL's Angels, the 2018 MDI winners!
      exceL Esports has been a core part of the scene built around multiple games since 2014, fielding teams in League of Legends, Street Fighter V, and more. With the presence of their organisation continuing to grow, exceL picked up Kjell's Angels after they won the MDI back in June, making their first move into the World of Warcraft competitive scene. 
      The Managing Director of exceL Esports, Kieran Holmes-Darby, had this to say on the partnership, as well as the first goal for exceL's Angels:
      Below, you can find the announcement video that exceL posted to their YouTube channel:
      At the time of their acquisition and still to this day, the Mythic+ team consists of Divinefield, Cirra, Ashine, Dorullkjell and Herudra. With their stellar performance that led them to a win at the last event, we felt that the Angels would be a perfect match to bring new content to Icy Veins, in the form of Mythic+ guides.
      Their strategies are no doubt effective and, after being tested at the top Mythic+ stage this Blizzcon, we will be working with the team to translate their efficiency and precision into guides that can help players of all levels to complete their Mythic+ dungeons and push to achieve the highest keys possible for their group.
      In the run-up to the event in November, you can stay up-to-date on all things exceL by following them on their social media accounts, all of which are linked below:
      Twitter / Facebook / Instagram / YouTube / Twitch / Website
      Alongisde Icy Veins, exceL has also formed a partnership for their WoW team with Enthusiast Gaming, one of the top events, content and advertising companies in the gaming industry and the company behind the largest games expo in Canada, the Enthusiast Gaming Live Expo. You can find out more about them at their website link below or on any of their social media accounts.
      Website / Twitter / Facebook / Instagram / YouTube
      You can also keep on top of everything Angels-related by checking out the players themselves on Twitter and Twitch:
      Divinefield (Tank): Twitch / Twitter
      Cirra (Healer): Twitch / Twitter
      Ashine (DPS): Twitch / Twitter
      Herudra (DPS): Twitch / Twitter
      Dorullkjell (DPS): Twitch / Twitter
      Looking to the future, we hope that you will all join us in cheering for exceL's Angels at the All-Stars event next month and cannot wait to showcase the new guides we will be working on together!