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Nighthold Mythic WF Race Day 3: Drama Day

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Serenity got locked out of their raid for 2-3 hours, Method got blamed, things leaked and much drama ensued.

 

Well, crap. Day 3 was supposed to be Asia day, relatively uneventful, as the Asia guilds started their first foray into the Mythic Nighthold and caught up to everyone else. But it wasn't to be. The big event of the day was a big piece of drama between old rivals/nemeses Serenity and Method. Now, there are many stories going around about what actually happened, so let's just start with the facts.

Around 1 P.M. CET Serenity found they were unable to enter their raid, getting kicked out after 1 minute as if it wasn't their ID. This lasted for 2-3 hours. What happened was someone had offered a Serenity raider free flasks to help out with their progress, and after being invited to a group with said raider, the culprit proceeded to enter the Nighthold and lock out the entire guild. But what does Method have to do with this?

Well. The central drama appeared some time later, as this screenshot of an internal discussion within Method was leaked (apparently by Treckie, a former Method raider who got the image from a third party):

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As you can imagine, shit hit the fan pretty heavily after that, with many discussions over whether it was real, fake or what it actually meant. While some thought (and still think) that Method were actually behind the incident, as in organized it, it seemed pretty clear that, if anything, it was a single member's doing. Once the screenshot was released, Method kicked Jadelolz (who had previously been in Serenity, was kicked, and had some bad blood with GM Kuznam) out of the guild with Sco tweeting this:

This is where the facts end and theories begin, as there is a lot of info floating about all of this out there, but none of it is confirmable. So let's go one by one.

Theory 1: The Lone Gunman
Jadelolz was behind it all, he sabotaged Serenity's lockout and bragged about it on Method's Slack (a team communication platform). Method leadership was confused and told him to stop, as this was very much not what they wanted.

Theory 2: The Mega Conspiracy
Same as 1, except it was a concerted effort by Method to lock Serenity out of their ID. This would include multiple coverups and constant lying on social media by many, many people. It's the most far-fetched and seems pretty much impossible due to the huge PR hit Method took, and the fact that 2-3 hours is simply not a significant enough advantage to risk it over.

Theory 3: The One-armed Man
Jadelolz wasn't the one that did the deed, but it was a friend/acquaintance of his. He just got sent the screenshot and shared it on the Method Slack and poorly chose his words while celebrating. There's an interview over at Raider's Tavern with someone claiming to be the culprit of it all and explaining his motives, but there's no proof offered that he is, in fact, said person. The story goes that this Isabellab, who was never a member of Serenity nor Method, decided to "even the playing field" after Method had some server lag issues by blocking Serenity from the ID for a "fair" amount of time. After 2-3 hours inside, a GM ported the character out of Nighthold and the account later got banned for 24 hours.

As you'd expect there was even more to it, with people taking images that were purposefully faked to show how easy faking an image of a chat is, as proof that Method were behind it and similar shenanigans, but that's about the whole story. If you want to find out even more (if that's even possible at this point) you can check out the reddit thread dedicated to the topic.
As for us, let's get back to the actual race, shall we?

The first day of Asia server progress wasn't that eventful, with Korean guild AFK R starting strongly and finishing it up at 5/10, taking all 5 Asia first kills. Chinese guilds Style War and Alpha followed closely behind, both ending the day at 4/10, with the former downing Aluriel, while the latter skipped her and went for Krosus. Also, as the Chinese New Year is today, we won't be seeing most of the Chinese guilds around for a few days.

Back in the West Method caught up to the top 3 on 7/10, as expected, followed by From Scratch. Pieces was the next to join the, now 6 strong top group with 7 boss kills, showing off some serious dedication and bringing their guild to the very top of the competition. OC guild Entropy also very recently joined the 7/10 club,grabbing the US/OC second on Botanist along the way. Midwinter follow the top group on 6/10, with 10 guilds on 5/10, 14 on 4/10, 167 on 3/10, only 37 on 2/10 and 84 with only Skorpyron down.

We also saw the release of the first two boss World First kill videos, which you can check out in the image above, and Limit's WF Tichondrius:

So, no new World First today, but plenty of drama, catching up and finding out that Spellblade Aluriel is actually skippable. We now have seven guilds at the very top, on Star Augur Etraeus, who has proven to be at least somewhat of a challenge for these insanely hardcore guilds, which bodes well for the rest of Nighthold, and Gul'dan in particular. As usual, the facts were taken from Method.gg's progress coverage and you should check them out if you want more details and live coverage. We'll see you in the next update!

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I wonder if anyone will accept the fact when Method gets the World first.

I don't see any resolution of this matter, in fact Serenity lost a lot of time they were ahead of the others.

Anyways let's hope the raid will not be done in this reset :D

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This is goin to get gooooood. I am more in favour of Method because I am not a big fan of Slootbag. Something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way and I can't understand what

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We used to drag the green dragons through the other guilds set-up sites to stop them from getting kills.  It's all just gamesmanship, although actually hijacking an ID like that is pretty sad.

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2 hours ago, Ferwyn said:

This is goin to get gooooood. I am more in favour of Method because I am not a big fan of Slootbag. Something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way and I can't understand what

Found it.

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34 minutes ago, MrEdren said:

We used to drag the green dragons through the other guilds set-up sites to stop them from getting kills.  It's all just gamesmanship, although actually hijacking an ID like that is pretty sad.

Agreed there is a certain point where one has to sit back and remember this is a game. Unfortunately people personally invest a bit too much of themselves into it and pull stuff like this. It's not an impressive stunt or a well planned political upheaval. You sat in an empty room for 2 hours to prevent someone else from playing a game so that your buddies could beat it first. In the grand scheme of life, its is really sad. Even more considering the race to world first is simply for bragging rights and to try and sell carries, little else. 

Also didn't a lot of shenanigans like this happen in WoD with Highmaul and BrF?

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as soon as you said "x serenity member" i beleived he did it on his own accord 100% 

 

having to leave a guild and go to their rival will make anyone mad, and i for sure think it was jades doing on his own, speaking that people seem confused in the chat, yes they laugh but as you see people dident know, so it seems like it wasent a set up

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8 hours ago, Dvanom said:

I wonder if anyone will accept the fact when Method gets the World first.

I don't see any resolution of this matter, in fact Serenity lost a lot of time they were ahead of the others.

Anyways let's hope the raid will not be done in this reset :D

Honestly I doubt anyone objective a) thinks Method had anything to do with it as a guild and b) thinks 2-3 hours is a big enough deal to claim invalid WF. The only way I can see this REALLY being significant is if Method (or anyone else for that matter) gets Gul+da WF and then Serenity gets it under 2 hrs after that, which is pretty unlikely if the raid goes more than 1 reset.

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