Bunbohue

Sub help - dps /resource management

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I've been looking around my logs to look for areas where I can improve my dps. One of the things I've noticed (in game) is that I tend to pop shadow dance too early ( not pooling enough) . However in my logs I also noticed that I'm also capping energy and combo points a lot. What is an acceptable amount of resource waste for sub? Is there anything else I've not noticed in my logs that might help me improve my dps. 

I've been trying to reduce the amount of backstabs I cast during encounters which helped my dps quite a bit ( noticed a lot of the higher parsing sub rogues had less than half my bs casts)

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/21629426/latest/

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Hey, i just saw this, your dps is pretty amazing,  any chance you can tell me how you get such high dps? 

a vid of your rotation would be epic :D

 

 

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On 2/3/2017 at 2:02 PM, Flyheit said:

Hey, i just saw this, your dps is pretty amazing,  any chance you can tell me how you get such high dps? 

a vid of your rotation would be epic :D

 

 

 

It's more or less the rotation from the sub guide. I've also done a lot of comparing logs to check what I'm doing. Also playing sub since first month of legion help. It's a lot of intuition, when do I use this and that spell. 

A good starting point is to practise the rotation in the sub guide and pooling of energy.

Oh, and you should also look into simming your character. It helps a lot with choosing gear upgrades, especially trinkets.

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On 02/02/2017 at 0:11 PM, Bunbohue said:

I've been looking around my logs to look for areas where I can improve my dps. One of the things I've noticed (in game) is that I tend to pop shadow dance too early ( not pooling enough) . However in my logs I also noticed that I'm also capping energy and combo points a lot. What is an acceptable amount of resource waste for sub? Is there anything else I've not noticed in my logs that might help me improve my dps. 

I've been trying to reduce the amount of backstabs I cast during encounters which helped my dps quite a bit ( noticed a lot of the higher parsing sub rogues had less than half my bs casts)

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/21629426/latest/

Honestly, as long as you aren't lacking resources, it's ok. Sub is naturally going to waste some CPs with the procs from auto attacks etc. 

The thing I find that helps the most with that is to not use BS unless I'll end up capping, or using it immediately after I get a Shadow Techniques proc so I guarantee that I know how many CPs I'll have. It helps limit BS use as well, which is something that the vast majority of people do too often

It also means you have to wait less time before you can use Shadow Dance, cause you'll already be playing around the 65-75 Energy mark, and 74-75 is when you'll ideally pop it.

Your SoD uptime is great, make sure that you're taking advantage of the random procs of extra Energy to refresh it even if you don't need to. Like if your 6CP finisher successfully procs the bonus Energy restore, it (usually) means you can get a free refresh and not lose anything

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Nice, thanks for that. 

 

When you say pooling?  you mean Shadow dance is coming off cooldown so stop using abilities like Back stab so i got the 70+ energy for the proper shadow dance rotation?

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8 minutes ago, Flyheit said:

Nice, thanks for that. 

 

When you say pooling?  you mean Shadow dance is coming off cooldown so stop using abilities like Back stab so i got the 70+ energy for the proper shadow dance rotation?

I mean not using BS at all until you reach 75-80 Energy

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