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Crit v Haste

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From what I've seen on stat weights, crit has almost caught up with haste in 7.1.5. Would it be close to viable to go Mastery, Crit, Haste if you get One with the Pack? In possible theory that would mean more dire beast which helps focus, stomp dmg, and crit damage, I'd just imagine it would take a lot of crit to make it close to viable.

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One with the pack is only viable if you have legendary shoulders. At which point crit is more valuable than haste anyway. 

Unless you have those shoulders stick to your own sim weights and if you prefer, just aim for the items with higher mastery regardless of the crit/haste. 

Haste is what helps you generate the most focus anyway st the moment, the more haste the faster your focus restores. 

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I would not recommend it. Unless you can already cast Kill Command 6 times during any Bestial Wrath (without aspect of the wild or Bloodlust), Haste is still better than Crit.

The stat weights are not constant (because stats are additive with themselves but multiplicative with each other), the guide is only a generic placeholder. Stats also face diminishing returns. If you already have a very high mastery, adding more mastery brings a smaller increase of damage per point. So it only makes sense to get crit once both mastery and haste are high.

By the way, Haste also affects the cooldown of Kill Command and Dire Beast, so don't think it's only the focus regen.

 

Also, while One With the Pack might seem nice (especially with the Mantle of Command), Blink Strikes doubles the damage from Beast Cleave, and is by far the best choice for any fight that has significant AoE.

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On 10/02/2017 at 7:51 PM, Luthixx said:

One with the pack is only viable if you have legendary shoulders. At which point crit is more valuable than haste anyway. 

Unless you have those shoulders stick to your own sim weights and if you prefer, just aim for the items with higher mastery regardless of the crit/haste. 

Haste is what helps you generate the most focus anyway st the moment, the more haste the faster your focus restores. 

been in a bit of a wow dull and failed to see the change the shoulders made. I got them last week before raid and on the fly just went with what i had. 

ty for posting this...reading this...then doing some sims....if i did that last week i would of added quite a bit to me logs..bah...me 90 average would be in the 95 range! bah! been far to lazy...mid-xpac lulls.  it also hilarious that the RNG god was giving me more crit then haste all xpac....

now...to go for the belt....7 legendariies down and 3 to go. 

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1 hour ago, Banard said:

been in a bit of a wow dull and failed to see the change the shoulders made. I got them last week before raid and on the fly just went with what i had. 

ty for posting this...reading this...then doing some sims....if i did that last week i would of added quite a bit to me logs..bah...me 90 average would be in the 95 range! bah! been far to lazy...mid-xpac lulls.  it also hilarious that the RNG god was giving me more crit then haste all xpac....

now...to go for the belt....7 legendariies down and 3 to go. 

Jesus 7 already?! Grats mate, hope the shoulders serve you well. Not worth stacking crit outside of gear though, mastery is still the most important AoE stat, so keep your enchants and food all mastery based. Unless you're trying to go for like rank 1 parses on Trill or something haha. 

Tbh here I am complaining having 3 legendaries and wanting the shoulders so bad but to hear you have 7 and hadn't even gotten the belt yet makes me feel slightly less ungrateful hahaha. 

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12 hours ago, Luthixx said:

Tbh here I am complaining having 3 legendaries and wanting the shoulders so bad but to hear you have 7 and hadn't even gotten the belt yet makes me feel slightly less ungrateful hahaha. 

got 3 legendaries too... Sephuz, the legs and the wrist... :D can I keep complaining? ^^.

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