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Patch 7.2: Will Relinquished Items Fix Legendaries?

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Further fixes for Legendary items underway. Relinquished items were introduced in the latest build of 7.2 (#23623). The items are unique per slot and have a chance to contain Legendary items.

Relinquished Items

The persisting problem with Legendaries is that you don't get the one you want or need. Not anymore though. Relinquished items discover an item appropriate for your loot specialization and not only that, they have a chance to contain a Legendary item, most likely on a slot-per-slot basis.

Example: Relinquished HoodRelinquished Hood may contain only Head slot Legendary items, such as Darckli's Dragonfire DiademDarckli's Dragonfire Diadem or Uncertain ReminderUncertain Reminder. Such slot restrictions increase the chances of getting the Legendary item you want. The question is what's the probability of getting a Legendary item?

Unidentified Legendary Items

Update: Unidentified Legendary items were considered, but they won't go live as bad luck protection for individual specializations will be implemented.

The previous build (#23578) added items that create Legendaries based on your set loot spec. This may represent an overall fix for loot spec problems. I think unidentified Legendaries will drop by default and we won't need to worry about loot spec.

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What do you think about the latest changes?

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That may help a little bit I guess... except once you get an unidentified legendary token, even if you don't open it, I can guarantee it'll still use up your bad-luck protection and make your second (then third) legendary that much harder to obtain.

Sure you might technically be able to target specific legendaries a bit easier with those relinquished tokens... I doubt that was meant to remedy to the whole legendary rng problem though. You can try and only open tokens for the gear slot you want, but there is no way to avoid being randomly awarded an actual legendary token from doing... basically anything, and at that point you might as well just receive a random legendary directly.

Also it doesn't really help when your BiS legendary is a ring, and Brewmaster monks weep because they are literally eligible for two different belts.

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Hopefully they ditch legendaries in the next xpac and just go back to having a legendary item quest chain. Super low chance of dropping items that are integral to maximizing your rotation was a stupid idea.

 

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there's something I don't understand: 

As a BM hunter, I will focus on getting The Mantle of Command as example. As long as I don't get the Relinquished Spaulders item, I won't open any "relinquished box". Right?

What is the drop rate of these boxes?  What are the chances to get a Leg item in it? 

I really don't understand how introducing a new rng  system  for legendaries will fix the legendary rng issue... Am I missing something?

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I like that we are able to aim now, this will make fishing for off spec legendaries better. There are many classes where I haven't bothered to fish simply because there are only 1-2 legendaries i want and I don't trust RNGesus, I've gotten Kiljaedens burning wish 3 times (on different toons mind you). So the new changes are a nice addition to the system.

My only wish is that legendaries were character/class bound and not spec. What I mean is that your helm would do one thing as frost but when you switch to unholy or blood it would do something else. I don't mind fishing for a couple legendaries, honestly getting mine has been really fun, however, its a pain needing effectively 6 legendaries (assuming 3 spec class) for one character. I wish the legendaries would be altered like WoD gear was where you can reuse same gear for different specs. (wait did i actually mention something in wod was good, ITS THE END OF TIMES)

*note I am aware you can still equip a offspec legendary to use as a stat stick, i'm referring to abilities being transferred, kinda like how tier set works, you have your bonuses but when you switch spec you have your other bonuses*

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2 hours ago, demonardvark said:

My only wish is that legendaries were character/class bound and not spec. What I mean is that your helm would do one thing as frost but when you switch to unholy or blood it would do something else. I don't mind fishing for a couple legendaries, honestly getting mine has been really fun, however, its a pain needing effectively 6 legendaries (assuming 3 spec class) for one character. I wish the legendaries would be altered like WoD gear was where you can reuse same gear for different specs. (wait did i actually mention something in wod was good, ITS THE END OF TIMES)

Nah that would be way too logical and we can't have that! D:

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1 minute ago, Ammako said:

Nah that would be way too logical and we can't have that! D:

well heck using diablo as reference with the glorious cube there is a way to turn gear into other gear, so maybe even a simple re-roll system would be fine. Like the touched by a titan quest, get 50-100 essences of change or some junk to be able to re roll a legendary. Lots of easy ways to fix the system. 

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That would be amazing; the quest is still there and you can still do it even when you don't have any 910 legendaries anymore, might as well make it useful.

It would be better if you could just aim for a specific legendary from the start without having to risk getting a different one, but being able to reliably correct bad rng within a week or two (or three) would be better than nothing.

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3 hours ago, demonardvark said:

My only wish is that legendaries were character/class bound and not spec. What I mean is that your helm would do one thing as frost but when you switch to unholy or blood it would do something else.

IMO this would fix about 2/3 the problem with the current legendary system. 

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21 minutes ago, PatrickHenry said:

IMO this would fix about 2/3 the problem with the current legendary system. 

and we see it already implemented in tier gear so it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do. now people might whine that oh the pants are better for outlaw rogues then the other two specs but the fireback would be, at least you have a functional legendary that is a dps increase, it may benefit one spec more than the others but at least its usable. 

even then to some degree we have cross spec usable ones already, kiljaedens burning meatball for instance

I tweeted the idea to the warcraft devs just now, i'm sure they will ignore it like my petition to get tauren antlers, but at least i tried XD

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12 hours ago, demonardvark said:

and we see it already implemented in tier gear so it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to do. now people might whine that oh the pants are better for outlaw rogues then the other two specs but the fireback would be, at least you have a functional legendary that is a dps increase, it may benefit one spec more than the others but at least its usable. 

even then to some degree we have cross spec usable ones already, kiljaedens burning meatball for instance

I tweeted the idea to the warcraft devs just now, i'm sure they will ignore it like my petition to get tauren antlers, but at least i tried XD

ha sure enough they answered, granted a different person allegedly asked but whatever great minds think alike. they said that system doesn't make sense because the legendaries have lore/fantasy behind them........ i call bs. 

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