no more OWTP with Shoulders??

[Ashmane 0]

cheerio Huntsmen,

as the description asks already, why no more One with pack? I dont understand this, because the proccs are really sweet as hell. Thanks for your answers.

 

[Boogyness 1]

Maybe beacause Thunderslash will benefit from Bestial Fury as well (and thunderslash seems pretty powerful at the moment).

 

[Ashmane 0]

ok, as i spent first points in Jaw and Packleader im far from thunderslash. you maybe right, mate

[Luthixx 138]

Because of the changes to the way cobra shot works, now only costing 32 focus down from 40, using OWtP you would spend majority of your time at or almost at focus cap, and doesn't allow you to effectively manage your dps as it did prior to the change. While theoretically you are able to get more cobra shots off, which are further enhanced with WotC, if you have boots and belt as well as shoulders, you end up spending too much of your time at focus cap.

With the changes to the way cobra shot works, combined with the Thunderslash and CotW bracers + CoF, it's looking more and more like belt and bracers will be the best combo again, especially come ToS. I'm even forseeing CoF being BiS trinket well into the rest of the expansion, unless they decide to change the damage to Thunderslash. 

[Ashmane 0]

So, it´s fact, that also with Boots and Mantle, ill play killer cobra again? Instead of Aspect( where you reset Kill Command with Dire Beast)? And the Changes to Bestial Wrath are only important with the fully skilled Cobra SHot talent?

[Najjic 10]

1 hour ago, Luthixx said:

Because of the changes to the way cobra shot works, now only costing 32 focus down from 40, using OWtP you would spend majority of your time at or almost at focus cap, and doesn't allow you to effectively manage your dps as it did prior to the change. While theoretically you are able to get more cobra shots off, which are further enhanced with WotC, if you have boots and belt as well as shoulders, you end up spending too much of your time at focus cap.

With the changes to the way cobra shot works, combined with the Thunderslash and CotW bracers + CoF, it's looking more and more like belt and bracers will be the best combo again, especially come ToS. I'm even forseeing CoF being BiS trinket well into the rest of the expansion, unless they decide to change the damage to Thunderslash. 

Focus capping should never ever be an issue even if you have boots+ shoulds and play AOTB. there is no excuse for being at focus cap even with new talents. If u can't make it work with AOTB talent then go KC.

 

However if thunderslash is as good as it seems then that + the fact that u can get more KC'S in with Killer Cobra during BW phase thanks to that it will be harder for u to get focus starved with CS costing less, then BF probably outweighs OWTP. But however if you have shoulds + boots than OWTP might still be better thanks to the amazing ST potential.

Edited March 31, 2017 by Najjic

[Luthixx 138]

8 hours ago, Najjic said:

Focus capping should never ever be an issue even if you have boots+ shoulds and play AOTB. there is no excuse for being at focus cap even with new talents. If u can't make it work with AOTB talent then go KC.

 

However if thunderslash is as good as it seems then that + the fact that u can get more KC'S in with Killer Cobra during BW phase thanks to that it will be harder for u to get focus starved with CS costing less, then BF probably outweighs OWTP. But however if you have shoulds + boots than OWTP might still be better thanks to the amazing ST potential.

Yeah boots and shoulder combination obviously still would use AotB and OWtP.

Thunderslash is fantastic, and it only increases with things like lust and Dire Frenzy (especially when you have three stacks).

But yeah with anything other than shoulder boots combination it becomes a lot harder to stay off focus cap, this is mostly coming from guildies that have boots and shoulders or belt and shoulders, they've found it really difficult to stay off focus cap now that cobra shot has been changed with the new traits.