Nesmuricus

Fury DPS assistance!

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Hello y'all, 

So I'll cut right to the chase. I feel like I'm under performing. Or I could be doing just fine with my current gear/stats (SimCraft may have given me unrealistic expectations).

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/malganis/veinsplitter

I have decent stats, draught and convergence, and my 4 piece. These are all on the lower side, so I think that would be one way to improve my DPS, but that's not what I'm here for. I ran a Sim today and it states that under ideal conditions and a perfect run, I should be doing around 900k, with an initial burst of 1.7k, and a couple peaks around a mil. I don't see these numbers, especially the peaks of 1 mil, while I run though, which leads me to my original point of me thinking I'm doing something wrong.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zfyq3C6JkFvngHVt#fight=6&view=rankings Heroic Krosus

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CygxKrJPNhfz82dB#view=rankings Heroic Guldan

One thing someone will probably point out is that I wasn't using pre-pots on either of those. That'll change in the future. 

 

My rotation is based off of the Fury Discord guide.

Opener - Charge/BT/BC/Rampage/Drought/RB

I'll usually then BT or Rampage based on rage, OF, and then go into a priority system of Enraged RB > BT > FS > RB

Rampage at 100 rage.

 

At execute phase, my execute rotation is:

Execute/FS/BT in that order to keep myself at 100 rage for Frothing. While this is what the Fury Discord states, I tend to not get a ton of Execute damage on the boss and feel this is one area I could be doing something wrong.

 

On add fights, I know that I don't incorporate Whirlwind enough into my rotation, and that's something I need to be a bit mindful of. But after I burst, I tend to drop down at a steady rate. I don't usually see my DPS jump back up unless I Drought (which makes sense), but when I'm doing my standard rotation I can't keep my numbers up. Krosus should be a straight forward fight, but if you look at the logs, my dps drops to around 500k. Am I screwing something up? Or am I pulling comparable DPS to a fury warrior with 897 ilvl. 

Thank you all for any help you can provide to me. I greatly appreciate it. I just want to bring honor and glory to all of my warrior brethren out there.

 

 

 

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Hey Nesmuricus,

Something I noticed that would help is changing around your opener a little, I saw that you put OF outside of your BC window, should always save OF to use in a BC window if you can help it.

But yeah for your opener, what I do is Pre pot Old War, Charge and pop my cool downs macro to activate Avatar and BC. Then you want to rampage to get enrage, then Odyn's Fury and then you pop draught of souls. After that you should have enough of a BC window left to get off a BT for a guaranteed enrage, then raging blow, furious slash. Then continue the rotation.

To really boost your execute phase, keep an eye on BC cool down around 25% of boss health, if BC is about to come off, save it and when you hit 20%, BC, BT, and then spam executes fitting in a last BT just before BC ends, then continue the rotation of Execute, BT, RB, while dumping all rage into execute whenever you are enraged and again when BC comes up do the same as before (and do everything you can to keep up juggernaut stacks!! will be critting huge with them).

Hope this helps

Edited by Archie30

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Good afternoon, Nesmuricus.

First off, I want you to do me a favor - stop taking simulationcraft results as an end-all-be-all expectation of reality. SimulationCraft is a calculator of perfection within given parameters. Like any calculator, it always gives the correct answer but it requires you to input the right question, if that makes sense. (Hinting at a custom APL here, but that's the least of your concerns right now.)

SimulationCraft is a great tool when used properly and for the right reasons. (Calculating stat weights, seeing which piece can theoretically give better numbers, etc.) Using it to see how much DPS you should be doing is not what it's meant for. You will never reach a perfect situation and, as such, you will always be under the projected numbers. Comparing yourself to perfection will only aggravate you. Stop doing that.

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I looked over your Heroic Krosus log that you provided. A couple points here and there:

  • As noted, you didn't prepot. Two potions used can come out to be about 10% of your overall damage. It's a lot so make sure to use two.
  • Your Enrage up time is decent; around 80%.
  • You have your legendary cloak. The only thing I noticed is you let the buff fall off for a short period of time. This is a rotation problem. (You didn't die, so you missed a BT cast when you needed to maintain the 4% buff).
  • The biggest problem is you're missing a lot of Raging Blow casts. You missed about 25% of your potential casts (hitting 41 out of a possible 55). That's a lot of missed damage.

With the last two points in mind, it seems your issues primarily revolve around a misunderstanding in your ability priority. A lot of players get "rotation" and "priority" mixed up, thinking they mean the same thing, when they don't.

With your 4PC and Draught, your opener looks to be correct.

  • CDs (Avatar / Battle Cry) -> Rampage -> Draught of Souls -> Raging Blow -> Bloodthirst.

If you have Hero rolling on your opener you can continue that opener with Odyn's Fury. Without Hero, though, you'll want to save Odyn's for your next Battle Cry Window (while using your Convergeance of Fates).

A note on Odyn's Fury - only use it during a Battle Cry window (while using your Convergeance of Fates). If you're not using CoF, you'll want to use it during a Battle Cry window (primarily) or use it in place of a Furious Slash when you're Enraged and have Frothing Berserker up.

Outside of this you have a pretty simple priority (single target):

  • Raging Blow (If Enraged)
  • Rampage (Only at 100 Rage)
  • Raging Blow
  • Bloodthirst
  • Furious Slash

Again, this is a priority system; not a flat rotation.

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All of this information (save the log review) can be found in Archimtiros's 7.2 Fury Warrior Guide over on MMO-Champion.

I hope this helps. If you should have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. Get your spell priority under control and your numbers will get better.

 

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