FrostyJack

914 Frost Mage doing low dps

5 posts in this topic

Hello!

My main is a Frost Mage (item level 914) and im doing pitiful dps. I dont know what im doing wrong: I've read all the guides, watched all the good mage's streams and i still being the worst frost mage. PLEASE, I really need your help to understand what im doing wrong!

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/gallywix/jackpenguin

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/23767476/13#difficulty=4&class=Mage&spec=Frost&metric=dps&boss=2032

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/23767476

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I suggest you to switch to Glacial Spike spec. Its the better way to make substained dps now. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So you're saying you've read all the guides, yet it seems like your execution and grasp of how to shatter spells is lacking a bit. I guess we can start with your better Goroth opener. 

One big problem at the start already is that you haven't cast anything before the pull. You're standing there doing nothing for a second before you hit time warp, then another second before you cast frostbolt. You want to cast Ebonbolt on the opener, then hit Icy Veins immediately while it's in the air and then Flurry and then Ice Lance. This guarantees that both your Ice Lance and Ebonbolt shatter for increased damage, as well as benefit from 20% damage increase from Chilled to the Core. In addition, you can use Time Warp here because both Time Warp and Icy Veins are off the global cooldown. Another thing I noticed is that you waited 18 seconds to use Frozen Orb. After your initial shatter combo, this should be one of the first abilities you use.

Also, you should never use Blizzard on a single target fight. Ever. Don't even bother with it. Otherwise the biggest issues I see are that you have a ton of dead time where you're not casting anything, and that you have a ton of Ice Lances that aren't critting.. Like you're just standing there doing nothing. You don't do dps without pushing buttons.

Sorry if it was a little harsh, but hopefully it helps :)

Edited by Tracing
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mostly what Tracing said, though I would put a couple of Frostbolts between the initial combo and the Frozen Orb to fish for some crits for Chain Reaction stacks before getting a bunch of lances.

What he didn't touch on is how you have so many gaps in your rotation, like you are too busy thinking of what to do next rather than just doing it. I noted a bunch of almost 10 second long gaps, including one where you stopped casting, 8 seconds later double shimmered, then spent another empty 3 seconds before casting a Frostbolt. The only reason I can think of on a H Goroth fight for that to happen is you were massively out of position and an infernal burning was coming up. You should be watching what is going to happen in the near future, and use Instant cast globals/shimmer to move yourself where you're going to need to be rather than sacrifice a bunch of dps because you're suddenly without a pillar to hide behind and he's starting to cast.

Take some time and hit a training dummy, get your rotation down to muscle memory, it's really not a complex setup and you should be able to perform it without much thought if you're planning on raiding, most of your focus should be going into mechanics of the fight while maintaining high dps just off knowledge of your class.

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Tracing and Tehril, thank you SO MUCH!!! Thats the kind of answers i was looking for! I know it takes much time to write so many tips like you've done, so i am very grateful for this help. I will try to improve my DPS with these tips, i learned many things with everyone's answers.

About H Goroth, you were right  Tehril. Besides the problem with my position, i usually have big problems with lag in the 1st fight, thats why sometimes i dont cast anything at all.

And Tracing, i dont think it was a ''little harsh''. Harsh is when people say i shouldnt play WoW because im crap, thats doesnt help neither me nor them. You, on the contrary, helped me a lot and said what i should do to improve my skills. :)

Again, THANKS VERY MUCH!! I appreciate the time everyone spent trying to help me :) !!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Frozst
      Anyone already done the math on this?  Does it make it more beneficial to have Let It Go x3 (Frost, Arcane, Frost) and sacrifice iLVL on the artifact weapon or to have 3 other (not as effective) relics but with a higher iLVL. 
      Example:
      Let It Go (865, 885, 850)
      Other Relics (Ice Age 895, Obsidian Lance 895, Ice Age 900)
    • By blackempire
      Wazzup this is my first forum post and stuff and im wondering what you think it the best talent to go for!
    • By Treylawny
      <Trust> may be what you're looking for if you enjoy killing internet dragons with a group of like minded players! Currently we are 8/9 Heroic, soon to be stepping into Mythic ToS. We are recruiting to finish rounding out our raid team. <Trust> is located on the [US] Doomhammer/Baelgun pve servers, alliance side! Check us out!
       
      About Us:
      <Trust> is a recently formed guild, founded by a group of long time players that have been raiding together for a couple of years now. Founded out of a desire to continue raiding in a casual-progression manner, we work towards defeating mythic bosses. <Trust> is a raiding guild, first and foremost.
       
      Our Raids:
      <Trust> maintains a progression-oriented 2-day semi-casual raiding team. That's 'semi' as in we expect our team members to always prioritize life first; but not 'casual' as in we take downing bosses less seriously. We strive to maintain a balance of taking our progression raids seriously while having plenty of laughs along the way.
       
      Raid Schedule:
      Tuesday & Thursday: 5p – 8p server (8p – 11p eastern)
      Friday(optional): 5p – 8p server (8p – 11p eastern)
       
      Recruitment:
      <Trust> is looking for full time Resto Druid, Mages, Hunters, and Warlocks for our raid team. We are also open for good people to join as casual players, pvpers, with the option to join farm content or alt raids.
       
      More Info:
      Feel free to reach out to us:
      Recruitment Officer:
      In game - Treylawny
      Battletag - Treylawny#1813
       
      Guild Lead:
      In game – Oleic
      Battletag - Jarg#1591
       
      -OR-
       
      Website and Application: <Trust> (US)Doomhammer/Baelgun
      (The app is quick and painless as its used primarily to get your name to us quickly!)
       
      Discord is our way of communicating during raid; also used for casual chatting!
       
    • By molodirazz
      All applications will be reviewed and considered however if you are playing a class/spec combination we need then your chances of joining will be higher.
      A little bit of info about us:
      We are a group of friends and serious raiders on EU Twisting Nether looking to recruit skilled like-minded players into our roster for Mythic Legion raids and onwards. We will offer a sociable and fun raiding environment while maintaining a strong desire for progression. Our Discord is very active and we encourage all members to chat and play together not only for raids. The guild formed late March 2016 and fully cleared 13/13 Mythic Hellfire Citadel pre nerf shortly after. We've since been improving our world ranking every tier.
      We currently raid 3 days per week on Mythic: Wednesday, Sunday and Tuesday 19:15-22:15 server time. While it is not a lot we try to make the most out of our time. We run optional heroic/normal/alt/previous tier raids during off days in which raiders are welcome to come to. Our members also play other games outside raid times together where anyone is welcome to join(LoL, Dota, HotS, Overwatch etc.).
      Our loot system for Mythic is RC Loot Council.
      What we expect from you:
      - We are a raiding guild with only a 9 hour per week schedule so you are expected to attend and be ON TIME! However we understand things can come up sometimes but please let us know.
      - Be able to speak and understand the English language and not be afraid to communicate with other members during raids.
      - Actively doing dungeons/world quests to improve your gear and artifact weapon.
      - Have a strong understanding of the current raid tier and be able to play your class to it's potential.
      - Always come to raids prepared(i.e. bringing food and potions, etc).
      - Come fully gemmed and enchanted with the correct stats for your class and spec.
      - Access to Discord and a working microphone.
      - Have a computer that can handle 20 man raiding and a good, stable internet connection.
      - Exorsus Raid Tools, Weakauras2 and RC Loot Council addons installed. We may ask you to install others.

      If you have any further questions please contact us at battletags: Vims#21684 Azkey#21565
      To apply please visit our guild website: http://asylum-tn.enjin.com/recruitment
      __________________________________________________________________________
      Requirements to be considered into current main raids:
      - 920~ ilvl
      - 52+ traits.
      - 3/9 in ToS.
      - Exceptions to the requirements may be made..
      _____________________________________________________________________________
      We're currently looking for the classes below but may consider other classes as well.
      Death Knight: Blood.
      Druid: Guardian and Balance.
      Hunter: MM/BM.
      Monk: Brewmaster.
      Rogue: Open.
      Warlock: Open.
      Any and all applications will be considered.