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Sub/Assassin dps question

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Hello friends.

I want to ask you an advice about sub and assasin dps and rotation.

I read more guides,watched logs and still don't understand why I have bad dps.

For example there are 2 logs from Goroth

Heroic Sub: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/f2nmNPGFtX8wk3vA#fight=1&type=summary&source=41

And 

Mythic Assassin:https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tvnx1Z2BaQGYjF7f#type=summary&source=16&view=analytical&fight=5

Can anyone tell me my mistakes?

Thank you

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A quick glance at the HC log tells me that:

1. Nightblade was not up for 15% of the fight

2. Death from Above accounts for far too little damage and has not been used off cd. You have 5 casts in a 3m10s fight while it has a 25 second cd. DfA is one of the largest burst DPS jumps compared to regular Eviscerates. If you can't mix DFA in your rotation too well, consider dropping it for more favorable talent in that line. Right now it accounts for only 3.27% of your total damage.

Point 1+2 done right would have probably already given you a blue parse instead of a green one.

The rest is down to maximizing burst phases, something that is a bit harder to distill from logs. In addition, not wasting combo points is a big thing, otherwise you'll suffer in Eviscerate overall damage. If I have a good log on my sub (and I'm only 885 here so comparable noob with the spec) I have nearly 50% Eviscerate damage as part of the overall damage done. With your log, I see a relatively high % of Shadowstrikes and Backstabs, a sign that you've been wasting combo points, which means waiting for 35 energy to Eviscerate more often.

If you have downtimes where you're not using a GCD because no energy, work on sources of additional Haste and look closely at your Shadow Dance pacing.

 

I have no experience with Sin so you'll need another 'expert' on that :P

Edited by Vayra

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Good analysis, but the Death from Above part is not correct.
Here is a 99 percentile log for comparison:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pfvXTh7LD2qtn6zw#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=17

 

Here, DFA does only 3.04 % of the total damage. It's only the AoE part of DFA. The Eviscerate part goes into Eviscerate damage. 

I think what hurts most here is not having the legendary bracers. Moreover, the second legendary (Cloak) is one of the worst for single target damage.

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The eviscerate damage from DfA is calculated into your eviscerate damage. The DfA damage in logs are only the damage from the AoE component.

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