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Holy Paladin - Selfless healer over all?

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Hello my holy friends,

I really do have a problem with accepting the opinion that EF is the best choice in the T3 talents, as all the top holy paladins do. I mean most holy's are playing with around ~14k spirit, eternal flame and mostly prioritize intellect. I, for myself, tested this playstyle in SoO normal (10m) and flexible (25m) and I don't think this is performing that well.

I am playing with SH, 8,5k spirit and maximize mastery.

Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackrock/Lamindra/simple

I use to heal with some other holy paladins in ToT hero since 5.4 just to test both styles in comparison. For example Megaera hero. At the end of the fight the other holy, just forgot his name, sorry, pulled around 120k with a 561 weapon (don't think he was bad at all) and I was at 160k (543 weapon). (Nearly same overall ilvl) (Don't have a log at all :/ )

The intention of this post, however, wasn't to say "Hey guys look at me" or "Lol, everbody's an idiot", but I really don't get it why everybody's still playing with EF.

I mean if you only look at the combination of Holy Avenger and SH...

Judgment - 3 HP heal - Holy Radiance (+60%, without cost, cause we stacked Judgment before) - 3 HP heal - Holy Shock (+60% Daybreak) and so on...

And all the haste we get from forging spirit away, for a lower HS and Judgment cooldown.

Actually I haven't had the option of healing SoO hero for now, but I'm 100% sure that my spirit pool is enough.

EF's hot just seems to go into overheal often enough in so many encounters and the healing stream to the beacon tank, how it's preached in so many guides, doesn't seem to be necessary.

Feel free and give me some of your opinions.

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