Wierra

Fury DPS

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Hi, so I'd like to think that have got the fury rotation down, I've been using the Icy veins guide and some pointers from MMO-Champion. I don't think I have any big issues apart from the BC with CoF trinket, like if it's worth waiting for other cooldowns like OF to be up with BC, that's my main question. 

So I have linked my logs for some PuG raiding the other week, so if someone is up for the task of analyzing them for me, that'd be great. Sorry if my sentences are wrong or weird, I'm really hungover... 

 

Armory: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/silvermoon/wierra

Log Normal ToS: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WzPkRG2HXnrv8qwb#source=13&fight=1&view=analytical&type=damage-done

( In Goroth Normal, you will see some downtime in the middle of the fight. I got disconnected that is the answer:/ )

Log Heroic ToS: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1R3Gya6VCTJFYtfm#source=11&type=damage-done

 

Thanks, this is my first post here so if I'm missing anything please comment! :)

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Good morning, Wierra.

22 hours ago, Wierra said:

I don't think I have any big issues apart from the BC with CoF trinket, like if it's worth waiting for other cooldowns like OF to be up with BC, that's my main question.

You want to save Odyn's Fury for a Battle Cry window, yes. With your CoF and a properly managed rotation, you shouldn't have to wait too long for these to line up every time OF becomes available. In my experience I also notice that everything tends to line up a little nicely every other CD window as well - Umbral Moonglaives, Battle Cry, and Odyn's Fury. If you happen to miss an Odyn's Fury / Battle Cry combination, I don't think it's worth it to hold OF until the next BC availability; just cast it with a Frothing Berserker and Enrage buff combination and line it up with Battle Cry the next time around. I may be wrong with this approach but this is how I handle it personally.

There is one thing I noticed while looking over your logs and that's your handling of Umbral Moonglaives and Battle Cry. In your Maiden kill, for instance, you popped Battle Cry and then your trinket. You need to pop the trinket first and save Battle Cry for 1 GCD to guarantee the final burst to be affected by Battle Cry. The trinket lasts for 8 seconds and Battle Cry lasts for 7. Pop the trinket, wait one GCD, pop Battle Cry. You'll get more damage from the trinket that way.

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1 hour ago, Sajakain said:

If you happen to miss an Odyn's Fury / Battle Cry combination, I don't think it's worth it to hold OF until the next BC availability; just cast it with a Frothing Berserker and Enrage buff combination and line it up with Battle Cry the next time around. I may be wrong with this approach but this is how I handle it personally.

Mh, somewhere i read you basically NEVER cast OF outside BC-window. If you miss to cast it during BC, then you hold it for the next BC-window. With CoF this souldn't take that long (playing fury without CoF isn't competitive at all).

I didn't take a deeper view on logs, i just checked your armory. It's displaying that you just got 22% haste. This is a way to low. As far as i know, you should have at least 27-28% haste, better 30% because there seems to be a breakpoint. You equipped a ring with high crit and some versatilty. Throw it away, i would bet that every haste/mastery will sim better, even if it is 30ilvl lower.

I'm pretty sure there are also some errors in rotation, but it should be rather reviewed by a more experienced fury than me as prot :-)

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16 minutes ago, Allseye said:

Mh, somewhere i read you basically NEVER cast OF outside BC-window. If you miss to cast it during BC, then you hold it for the next BC-window.

It depends on if and when you notice it. 2/3 times it would probably be held until the next BC window but if it's caught early enough you can cast an OF with Enrage and Frothing up and still have the CD line up with the next BC window (even taking CoF into consideration). OF is only a 45 second CD; the objective would be to not waste the opportunity to get another cast in even if it's outside a BC window.

It's a very unique situation - nothing that happens on any type of regular basis but I have seen it come up. As I started with, 2/3 times it won't happen like that and the player would just end up holding it until the next BC window because the CD would not be reset by the time BC becomes available again.

 

16 minutes ago, Allseye said:

As far as i know, you should have at least 27-28% haste, better 30% because there seems to be a breakpoint.

This used to be the case to get an extra GCD in during our Battle Cry window. However, when the build turned to us taking Reckless AbandonReckless Abandon in our Tier 7 talents, regardless of the encounter, the 30% breakpoint is no longer necessary.

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3 hours ago, Sajakain said:

There is one thing I noticed while looking over your logs and that's your handling of Umbral Moonglaives and Battle Cry. In your Maiden kill, for instance, you popped Battle Cry and then your trinket. You need to pop the trinket first and save Battle Cry for 1 GCD to guarantee the final burst to be affected by Battle Cry. The trinket lasts for 8 seconds and Battle Cry lasts for 7. Pop the trinket, wait one GCD, pop Battle Cry. You'll get more damage from the trinket that way.

Good evening, Sajakain.

Okey, I see. I'll start using Umbral before Battle Cry. 

 

Thanks. 

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