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Zone Scaling in Patch 7.3.5 & Zone Level Caps

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Zone scaling is one of the highly-anticipated features of Patch 7.3.5. Check out the new zone caps in more detail!

Zone Scaling TL;DR:

  • All starting zones scale up to level 10.
  • World of Warcraft Vanilla (Eastern Kingdoms & Kalimdor) scales up to level 60.
  • At level 58, players can choose between Outland or Northrend (capped at level 80).
  • At level 80, players can choose between Cataclysm or Pandaria (capped at level 90).
  • Zones still have a minimum level requirement.
  • Quest rewards scale up to your level.

Starting Zones (1-10)

Eastern Kingdoms (10-60)

Zone Level Range
Ghostlands 10 - 60
Loch Modan 10 - 60
Silverpine Forest 10 - 60
Westfall 10 - 60
Hillsbrad Foothills 15 - 60
Redridge Mountains 15 - 60
Duskwood 20 - 60
Arathi Highlands 25 - 60
Northern Stranglethorn 25 - 60
Wetlands 25 - 60
The Cape of Stranglethorn 30 - 60
The Hinterlands 30 - 60
Western Plaguelands 35 - 60
Badlands 40 - 60
Burning Steppes 40 - 60
Eastern Plaguelands 40 - 60
Searing Gorge 40 - 60
Swamp of Sorrows 40 - 60
Deadwing Pass 55 - 56 ?
Blasted Lands ?? - 60

Kalimdor (10-60)

Zone Level Range
Azshara 10 - 60
Bloodmyst Isle 10 - 60
Darkshore 10 - 60
Northern Barrens 10 - 60
Ashenvale 15 - 60
Stonetalon Mountains 20 - 60
Southern Barrens 25 - 60
Desolace 30 - 60
Dustwallow Marsh 35 - 60
Feralas 35 - 60
Felwood 40 - 60
Silithus 40 - 60
Tanaris 40 - 60
Thousand Needles 40 - 60
Un'Goro Crater 40 - 60
Winterspring 40 - 60

Outland (58 - 80)

Zone Level Range
Hellfire Peninsula 58 - 80
Zangarmarsh 60 - 80
Terokkar Forest 62 - 80
Nagrand 64 - 80
Blade's Edge Mountains 65 - 80
Netherstorm 67 - 80
Shadowmoon Valley 67 - 80

Northrend (58 - 80)

Zone Level Range
Borean Tundra 58 - 80
Howling Fjord 58 - 80
Dragonblight 61 - 80
Grizzly Hills 63 - 80
Zul'Drak 64 - 80
Scholazar Basin 66 - 80
Icecrown 67 - 80
Storm Peaks 67 - 80
Wintergrasp 67 - 80

Cataclysm (80-90)

Zone Level Range
Mount Hyjal 80 - 90
Vashj'ir 80 - 90
Deepholm 81/2 - 90 ?
Uldum 83 - 90
Twilight Highlands 84 - 90

Pandaria (80-90)

Zone Level Range
The Jade Forest 80 - 90
Krasarang Wilds 81 - 90
Valley of the Four Winds

81 - 90

Kun-Lai Summit 82 - 90
Townlong Steppes 83 - 90
Dread Wastes 84 - 90
Valley of Eternal Blossoms 85 - 90

Draenor (90-100)

Zone Level Range
Frostfire Ridge 90 - 100
Shadowmoon Valley 90 - 100
Gorgrond 92 - 100
Talador 94 - 100
Spires of Arak 96 - 100
Nagrand 98 - 100
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This is honestly a better way to do it than I could have hoped, with the minimum level so that you cant just go to "high-level" zones right away.

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That's interesting, but ultimately quite strange for someone like me who's always enjoyed engaging into world pvp while leveling. This'll certainly make leveling require less traveling around and quest hunting, thought it could be argued this is also a pretty big thematic downside. In the end, Blizzard isn't really interested in building an epic legacy anymore; everything feels more and more streamlined.

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10 hours ago, Stan said:

 

  • At level 58, players can choose between Outland or Northrend (capped at level 80).
  • At level 80, players can choose between Cataclysm or Pandaria (capped at level 90).

Does it mean new players won't know full story of wow? And they just spend more time in one zone which may gets boring? And oh lol from vanilla to wotlk or from northrend into pandaria it looks like a joke.. less adventures less fun.. GJ blizzard

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1 hour ago, MZLICH said:

Does it mean new players won't know full story of wow? And they just spend more time in one zone which may gets boring? And oh lol from vanilla to wotlk or from northrend into pandaria it looks like a joke.. less adventures less fun.. GJ blizzard

Do you think current new players really get the full story of WoW right now lol

(If they get bored staying in one zone, this doesn't prevent them from heading to a different one, also.)

Your post shows so much disconnect towards the current state of the game tbh.

Also: in the same paragraph, you raise "not getting to see the full story of WoW" as a negative, but you also raise "staying in the whole zone" (which lets you see the whole story of the zone) as a negative, presuming that it is boring. Hmm...

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2 hours ago, MZLICH said:

Does it mean new players won't know full story of wow? And they just spend more time in one zone which may gets boring? And oh lol from vanilla to wotlk or from northrend into pandaria it looks like a joke.. less adventures less fun.. GJ blizzard

Well.. now with heirlooms you outgear and outlevel a zone pretty quickly and you really don't know what is really happening in that zone, raising level cap to 60 is the better way to prevent outgeared and outleveled player within low level zones, since the gear from both quest reward and dungeon scales with our level

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4 hours ago, Sesyl91 said:

Well.. now with heirlooms you outgear and outlevel a zone pretty quickly and you really don't know what is really happening in that zone, raising level cap to 60 is the better way to prevent outgeared and outleveled player within low level zones, since the gear from both quest reward and dungeon scales with our level

Couldnt agree more, I miss some of the quest achievements for zones for my loremaster cause i outlvl them. I'm sick of lvling through outland for example, about 20 max character lvls kill the fun of some zones. I couldnt imagine the scaling to be better, I'm definitely skipping outland and pandaria with the new allied races i will lvl :)))

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Zone Quest achievements are also being changed. Instead of needing X amount of quests, you need to complete the main storyline in the zone.

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1 hour ago, Archimage said:

Zone Quest achievements are also being changed. Instead of needing X amount of quests, you need to complete the main storyline in the zone.

This looks interesting, nice Blizzard. 

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57 minutes ago, Pavnik said:

Hmm, then we need lowlevel alts for XMog farming?

You'll still be able to go there with max level characters and lay waste to everything.

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2 hours ago, Calysia said:

You'll still be able to go there with max level characters and lay waste to everything.

It's more that certain transmog appearance sets only drop from mobs within a certain level range.  Though what I imagine will happen is that the drops will simply be tied to specific mobs instead of level-ranges of mobs.

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14 hours ago, Stan said:
  • At level 58, players can choose between Outland or Northrend (capped at level 80).
  • At level 80, players can choose between Cataclysm or Pandaria (capped at level 90).

Thank Jeebus

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I guess this is alright. It worked for legion because it was just ten levels. But I guess it's a moot point for me, I only level up through dungeon queues.

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6 hours ago, krapmyself said:

I guess this is alright. It worked for legion because it was just ten levels. But I guess it's a moot point for me, I only level up through dungeon queues.

Dungeons scale now too. So it'll be the same speed or if anything, I think from the experience squish, questing will now be faster!

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On 1/12/2017 at 11:49 AM, Dvanom said:

I'm sick of lvling through outland for example, about 20 max character lvls kill the fun of some zones. I couldnt imagine the scaling to be better, I'm definitely skipping outland and pandaria with the new allied races i will lvl :)))

I'll be with you, especially for the outland part, I like Pandaria, at least lookwise

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This is a great idea.  Previously, between resting and heirlooms, you'd see maybe 2 zones per expansion.  3 at "best" if you like content.  So due to the entry requirements to open up the area and quests, you'd see the same couple zones over and over contributing -- IMO -- a huge portion of the boredom of leveling a new toon.  And, if you decided to do some dungeons to add variety, you'd be dumped back into areas with too-low level content thereby exacerbating the problem.

That said, leveling in dungeon finder is way more fun that world quests, but it's not always as active as one would like.

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56 minutes ago, Savistik said:

This is a great idea.  Previously, between resting and heirlooms, you'd see maybe 2 zones per expansion.  3 at "best" if you like content.  So due to the entry requirements to open up the area and quests, you'd see the same couple zones over and over contributing -- IMO -- a huge portion of the boredom of leveling a new toon.  And, if you decided to do some dungeons to add variety, you'd be dumped back into areas with too-low level content thereby exacerbating the problem.

That said, leveling in dungeon finder is way more fun that world quests, but it's not always as active as one would like.

I've levelled a couple toons through dungeon finder and I'm over it now haha. 

There is definitely something to be said for just being able to shut off your brain and run around a zone doing quests.

Aren't there PVP changes coming too? Will I no longer be insta-ganked every time I go near Redridge Mountains?

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On 12/1/2017 at 12:33 AM, Ammako said:

Do you think current new players really get the full story of WoW right now lol

(If they get bored staying in one zone, this doesn't prevent them from heading to a different one, also.)

Your post shows so much disconnect towards the current state of the game tbh.

Also: in the same paragraph, you raise "not getting to see the full story of WoW" as a negative, but you also raise "staying in the whole zone" (which lets you see the whole story of the zone) as a negative, presuming that it is boring. Hmm...

Rightttttt!!! I thought the same thing... I leveled on PTR today and w/o heirlooms & dungeons it took eons just to get to 25... there was never a point I was like “mannn this story line is rad” I was like “is it over yet?... when...I...110...

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7 minutes ago, Violentravi said:

Rightttttt!!! I thought the same thing... I leveled on PTR today and w/o heirlooms & dungeons it took eons just to get to 25... there was never a point I was like “mannn this story line is rad” I was like “is it over yet?... when...I...110...

Saaame! Either I boost or try to level it up... then I end in 60... and still, I end up boost just with professions. 

Haha, I need help.

But I like it.

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Eastern Kingdoms - Deadwind Pass is levels 55 - 56.

Missing Zone - Eastern Kingdoms - Isle of Quel' Danas, part of the Outlands  - Level 80.

Eastern Kingdoms - Blasted Lands is levels 40-60.

Thank you for this post, its a big help. Now i can happily level my alts.

 

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      Talk to Saurfang and tell him to punch you. The screen turns black for a second and you will be afflicted with the "Convincing Blow" debuff for 10 minutes.
      Finally, go to Orgrimmar and talk to Sylvanas in Grommash Hold to complete the Queen's Favor quest that rewards Artifact Power.
      The story ends here. Sylvanas doesn't know you defeated the dark ranger and her forces along with Saurfang and Zekhan. Let's see what the future holds for Varok. Let us know what you think about his story so far and Sylvanas wanting him dead.
      Characters Involved in the Questline
      Dark Ranger Lyana
      Veteran Dark Ranger appointed by Sylvanas to help you track down Saurfang. In the beginning, it all looks like a rescue mission, but further down the questline you learn that she was deceiving you all along. She's later killed by the player, Saurfang, and Zekhan.
      Varok Saurfang
      Saurfang escaped the Stockades and you find him hiding at a farm in the swamps with simple armor and without the "High Overlord" title, indicating his discontent with Sylvanas' Horde. You confront Dark Ranger Lyana and her forces as you uncover her vile intentions and learn that the rescue mission was actually a lie and Sylvanas wants him dead. He doesn't want you or Zekhan to follow him, because he clearly states that he must travel the path alone. The character of Saurfang remains the embodiment of the Horde's long-lost honor.
      Zekhan
      Zappyboi makes an appearance during the questline and fights alongside Saurfang. Blizzard did a really great job at portraying him loyal to Varok at times of need as we saw in the Old Soldier cinematic.
      Lady Sylvanas Windrunner
      Another lie has been told by the Warchief. First, she makes you believe it's of utmost importance to track down Saurfang, who recently escaped the Stockades, so that the Alliance does not kill him. Later, she accuses Varok of treason against the Horde and she wants him dead. After you kill Lyana and her forces, you fool her into believing that Saurfang did all that. Blizzard confirmed in an interview that Sylvanas will not be Garrosh 2.0 in Battle for Azeroth.
      Gameplay Video
      Saurfang-Sylvanas relations hit an all-time low in Tides of Vegeance.
    • By Jovovich
      World of Warcraft - [Horde][US-Arthas]Unhuman - Francais - Uldir 3/8M  -  www.unhuman.ca
       
      Unhuman est à la recherche de nouveaux visages qui seraient intéressés à joindre ses rangs!
      Forum: http://forum.unhuman.ca/forum/7-recrutement/
       
      Raiding:
      - [Raid] Hex Uldir: 3/8M, 2soir, Mercredi et Jeudi 8pm à 11pm  (EST)
         Leader: Fangpriest / Assistant: Pandov et Starbender
      - [Raid] Unknown (Heroic only) Uldir: 4/8H, 1soir, Mercredi 7pm a 10pm (EST)
         Leader: Felfâllen / Assistant: Flos,  Falmortis 
      - [Raid] Casual Uldir: 0/8N, 1soir, En formation
         Leader: Legitdh 
      - Raid ouvert a tout les membres de la guilde (normal only) uldir: 8/8N, samedi matin 10am a 1pm (EST)
         Leader: Jovovich
       
      PvP:
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      Communauté:
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      Unhuman est plus qu'une guilde de raiding performante, c'est aussi la plus grosse communauté Francophone sur World of Warcraft US. Depuis sa création en 2006, Unhuman cherche à offrir à ses raiders un environnement de jeu qui favorise la progression et ce avec des joueurs d'excellent calibre. Nous sommes constamment à la recherche de nouveaux joueurs que ce soit PVE ou PVP, mais aussi des masters du Pet Battles, des champions de l'Archéologie ou peu importe ce qui vous branche ingame. Vous êtes donc assuré de trouver ce que vous cherchez chez nous peu importe votre style de jeu.
       
      Pour toutes questions...
       
      - http://unhuman.ca/
       
      - Jovovich-Arthas, Guild Master
      - Falmortis-Arthas, Officier
    • By Jovovich
      World of Warcraft - [Horde][US-Arthas]Unhuman - French - Uldir: 3/8M - www.unhuman.ca
       
      Unhuman is RECRUITING!
      Forum: http://forum.unhuman.ca/forum/7-recrutement/
       
      Raiding:
      - [Raid] Hex Uldir: 3/8M, 2day, Wednesday and Thursday 8pm to 11pm  (EAST)
         Leader: Fangpriest / Assistant: Pandov et Starbender
      - [Raid] Unknown (Heroic only) Uldir: 4/8H, 1day, Wednesday 7pm to 10pm (EAST)
         Leader: Felfâllen / Assistant: Flos , Florih et Falmortis 
      - [Raid] Casual Uldir: 0/8N, 1day, in formation
         Leader: Legitdh 
      - 1 more raid in formation...
       
      PvP:
      - [PvP] Unhuman RBG: 1200 rating, 1day Sunday starting at 9hpm (EAST)
       
      Community:
      - More than 445 account
       
      Unhuman is a performing raiding guild with multiple raid groups, it's one of the biggest, for not saying the biggest one, french community on World of Warcraft US. Unhuman has been created in December 2006 and will continue to live for a long time, Unhuman is trying to give to our raiders everything they need to be focus only on good progression!. Unhuman is always looking for new players of all kind, PvE or PvP, even with Battle pets or Archeologists or anything else you can do in the game....You will be sure to find your way with Unhuman!
       
      For any question...
      - http://unhuman.ca/
      - Jovovich-Arthas, Guild Master
      - Falmortis-Arthas, Officier