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Witchwood Worth it?

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70 packs for $50 dollars seems like a good deal.  I've never bought any of the pre-orders and feel like it's overkill as I play frequently and dust most cards I want.  Whatcha think?

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If you think that it is realistic that you buy packs in the near future - go for it.
It is a good deal considering the regular price.

Personally my willingness to pay is around 0,1 - 0,2 Euro / pack.
That is less then a fifth of the regular price, that's why I will never buy packs. Even the reduced price is ridicilous overprized in my opinion. You can buy a AAA game for this money, in Hearthstone you get a bunch of cards. To me it seems like going to McDonalds and paying the same price as if you would dine in the best Steakhouse in town.

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There are several points to consider: (that's why I use the points here :D)

  • Is the amount of money hurting you or can you spare it?
  • Do/will you play often enough to make it worth it?
  • Do you enjoy the game enough to make it worth for you?

What @WedgeAntilles said, I am inclined to agree but when I think about the times before games were played online you got a game played the content and you were done. Ofc you can play it again and maybe you will do that from time to time but you will need something fresh and you go and buy the next game. There have been years where I bought four or five games per year. And even though up to date games usually offer unlimited online multiplayer mode those are either not that good to make you play it a lot or they will charge you for it/ additional content ... or both.

The regular price for 60 packs is currently $/€ 69,99 which is a lot but many players (from what I personally know from friends and forums) who usually don't spent money get the pre purchases which are 50 packs for 49,99. This time you get 70 packs for the same pre purchase price as before. So looks like a good deal imo.

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16 minutes ago, Caldyrvan said:

There are several points to consider: (that's why I use the points here :D)

  • Is the amount of money hurting you or can you spare it?
  • Do/will you play often enough to make it worth it?
  • Do you enjoy the game enough to make it worth for you?

What @WedgeAntilles said, I am inclined to agree but when I think about the times before games were played online you got a game played the content and you were done. Ofc you can play it again and maybe you will do that from time to time but you will need something fresh and you go and buy the next game. There have been years where I bought four or five games per year. And even though up to date games usually offer unlimited online multiplayer mode those are either not that good to make you play it a lot or they will charge you for it/ additional content ... or both.

The regular price for 60 packs is currently $/€ 69,99 which is a lot but many players (from what I personally know from friends and forums) who usually don't spent money get the pre purchases which are 50 packs for 49,99. This time you get 70 packs for the same pre purchase price as before. So looks like a good deal imo.

1)  I can afford it.  But it's the princlpe, I don't want to spend money when I can just play and get the cards but at 50/70 might be too good.

2) I'm hardcore

3) Yes, but half the fun is grinding to buy packs with in game gold.

 

 

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Wait for the cards, see them first, then decide for yourself.

If you are interested in 1/3 of the cards (almost 40), pre-ordering is good. 

@WedgeAntilles In this game, card sets is the game itself. It is not a luxury or a decoration, it is a must to play the game. Game doesn't offer anything else. This is not like playing Overwatch, where skins are just a colorful stuff, that you don't really need for in-game purposes.

I might agree that the card packs are a little expensive, but setting a price of 0.1-0.2 euro for each pack is an overkill, big time.

Again, card set is THE GAME.

So, AAA game comparison for sets is not relevant IMO.

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7 hours ago, FanOfValeera said:

I might agree that the card packs are a little expensive, but setting a price of 0.1-0.2 euro for each pack is an overkill, big time.
 

Why am I not allowed to be ready to pay only 0,1 - 0,2?
I am not willing to pay more, where is the problem in that?

Since this price will never happen, I will never pay for packs - am I not allowed to do that?

 

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6 minutes ago, WedgeAntilles said:

Why am I not allowed to be ready to pay only 0,1 - 0,2?
I am not willing to pay more, where is the problem in that?

Since this price will never happen, I will never pay for packs - am I not allowed to do that?

 

You got me wrong.

You're allowed to do anything you want, with money, gold, dust or what have you. All I said is, comparing pack prices to AAA games is not relevant. 

There is no offense to anyone here.

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37 minutes ago, FanOfValeera said:

You got me wrong.

You're allowed to do anything you want, with money, gold, dust or what have you. All I said is, comparing pack prices to AAA games is not relevant. 

There is no offense to anyone here.

Sorry, understood you incorrectly.

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I'm new to Hearthstone (playing it for slightly more then a month). I like the game, but I don't aim for a serious, hardcore approach. Rather something moderate. For me, the best satisfaction in HS comes from dramatic wins with "worse" cards over players with better cards. Still, you need to have some collection, to compete for at least 50%, and have fun with fun decks. Therefore, I decided to buy some packs, namely bundles: 'wellcome' and 'mammoth' bundles. Spending 25 Euros on those ("somewhat" less expensive) is okay for me, for a video game. But not much more, especially if you are getting air (digital cards) for the money. Still, I'm tempted to preorder the next expansion - but only that one! Why? To buy me time. i haven't finished collecting wanted portions of the previous 3 expansions + classic set. With quests, gifts and by other means, I see openning c. 20- 40 packs a month (until now I opened around 80-90 packs, all together). So, I guess it will be possible to prepare enough gold for enough packs of future expansions, equaly to my needs. The Witchwood preorder would let me continue to complete previous stuff, instead of Witchwood, for little bit longer, staying "competative" at the same time. And, it will provide me with a lot of duplicates... erhm, dust for the mentioned purpose. 50 Euros for 70 packs, I'm willng to pay only this time. To pay much more money for HS doesn't seem meaningful, because it's not some super game, although it's very addictive. Casino alike, haha. Constantly paying for neverending air; need to pay in order to win more over poor players... not quite an accomplishment. Shallow and cheap. Probbably, at one point I will get bored with the game. Lately, I find myself playing casual, because ranked rewards are laughable (grind for 10 more dust). And I don't really care for the titles; just enjoy ordinary games, win 4 games, win one hard, loose next 2-3, and start playing all over again with equal players. ...Only question I would like to ask: was it possible to buy bundles, like the Mammoth one, in the past?

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5 hours ago, Tuscarora87 said:

.Casino alike, haha.

 

was it possible to buy bundles, like the Mammoth one, in the past?

Casino: You may laugh, but there are some people in politics who state that LootBoxes and stuff like that work indeed like gambling on a SlotMachine.

It is animated like a slot machine: blinking lights, sounds...
And the reward can be (next to) nothing - or great.
Gambling. With real money.
And there is line of thinking you can easily adopt: "Just one more box, then I'll HAVE get a legendary" - like in a casino "Just one more throw, then I HAVE to be lucky" -> that can be kind of addictive and you may invest much more money then you originally wanted.
It is undeniable that there are quite some similiarities between Lootboxes and Gambling in a casino.

Which would result - following this line of thought - in you having to be 18 or even 21 to take part in it. 
Making every game that sells Lootboxes for real money not avaiable for children anymore.
Or maybe the company would even need a licence for gambling.

I am not saying that I would personally do that. Just saying that there is done some thinking this way.

IMO it could indeed be possible that in a few years the government will prohibit it.

 

Now to your question:
No, there have never been bundles in the past.

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My laugh was quite ironic. Of course, I agree with everything said... and still wonder why there is still no any law meassures which deal with "free to play" video games. 

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I agree that a lot of games and their way to make money should be treated as gambling but some reasons (just for Hearthstone) I think it is not:

  • You don't have to pay for the game, while a slot machine always demands money.
  • You always have an ingame payoff (you get at least one rare in a pack, and due to the pity timer you will get a legendary card eventually and even if you get nothing useful you can still convert it into arcane dust.
  • You can't end up getting nothing like when playing a slot machine.

I know these facts do not prevent people from paying more and more hoping for something good. And just the "getting packs and opening them" can be addictive, so maybe it should be treated as drug.

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16 hours ago, Caldyrvan said:

I agree that a lot of games and their way to make money should be treated as gambling but some reasons (just for Hearthstone) I think it is not:

  • You don't have to pay for the game, while a slot machine always demands money.
  • You always have an ingame payoff (you get at least one rare in a pack, and due to the pity timer you will get a legendary card eventually and even if you get nothing useful you can still convert it into arcane dust.
  • You can't end up getting nothing like when playing a slot machine.

I know these facts do not prevent people from paying more and more hoping for something good. And just the "getting packs and opening them" can be addictive, so maybe it should be treated as drug.

The only time I feel like it's a drug is when I hit the max of 100 gold in a day.  That's when I turn it off and go do something else.

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If you plan to spend money on the game, pre orders tend to be the best way to do it, this pre order is especially juicy.  If you don't plan to spend money on the game then I don't think it is *THAT* amazing of a deal that you can't pass it up.

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On 3/14/2018 at 11:52 AM, FanOfValeera said:

Wait for the cards, see them first, then decide for yourself.

If you are interested in 1/3 of the cards (almost 40), pre-ordering is good. 

I think that is the best advice if you are still not sure whether or not to pre-purchase.

I was quickly browsing through the last three expansions (really quick, so the numbers are not that accurate). Cards in those sets which saw play until today, more are less and not all in top tier decks but at least somehow usable.

  • Ung'goro: ~55 cards
  • KFT: ~41 cards
  • K&C: ~58 cards

Ofc the numbers are much lower when looking for top tier cards but it's anyway hard to impossible to evaluate cards before they are not live for at least a week. When the K&C cards were revealed a lot of them looked pretty bad for me (and a lot of players saw it that way) but it turned out that many K&C cards found their place or even had a more than huge impact. Once the last cards had been revealed from K&C I looked at them and saw enough potential to pre-purchase. I will do it the same way this time, I think.

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