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Huge congrats to Kjell's Angels who earned their world first by completing Atal'Dazar +15 in time!

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That's neat and all, but to be fair Atal'Dazar is by far the weakest dungeon in terms of boss mechanics. The only boss I could see them having issues with is Vol'Kaal but even in the vod you can see even he was easy.  It would be much cooler to see them do a +15 Shrine or King's Rest.

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Obviously so, but you must keep in mind its VERY hard to complete a +15 on any dungeon with the gear available right now. Even a simple +10 will drop 370 gear next week and these guys average 355 item level right now (brought down by Cirra, the healer).

They had to go through 5 or so +15 keys before RNG'ing into this one, which was finally doable. Funnily enough they got Freehold afterwards and proceeded to try +16 (and fail) before doing the world 2nd on the resulting +15 key lol.

Hope they keep it up, next level dungeon running here!

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1 minute ago, Seksi said:

Obviously so, but you must keep in mind its VERY hard to complete a +15 on any dungeon with the gear available right now.

Oh trust me, I am aware of this. A key of that size is no joke, but Atal'Dazar it's a whole different story. But still, congrats to them I guess.

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Pretty insane I gotta say. For me, that's probably more of an achievement than a +30 back at the end of Legion, as we were all way overpowered. 

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4 hours ago, Raelyn said:

Pretty insane I gotta say. For me, that's probably more of an achievement than a +30 back at the end of Legion, as we were all way overpowered. 

Totally agree with this. 7.3.2 was just a.. not a really skill race. And lot of people can come with they did around 22-25+ and now they can't even finish 8+ in time : )  (and some of them in this gear like 355+). Sure as solo is impossible to even hit +10 in time. 

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On 9/10/2018 at 10:30 AM, Rhondis said:

That's neat and all, but to be fair Atal'Dazar is by far the weakest dungeon in terms of boss mechanics. The only boss I could see them having issues with is Vol'Kaal but even in the vod you can see even he was easy.  It would be much cooler to see them do a +15 Shrine or King's Rest.

Really?!?  A group completes a M +15 anything and that's your feedback.  You must be a real joy to those around you 🙂 .  Nicely done to the group from Kjell's Angels - I can't even imagine doing a M +15 anything at the moment.  Maybe we'll get lucky and Rhondis will post their awesome +15 Shrine or King's Rest win this week to shut me up 🙂 .

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1 hour ago, Afundude said:

Really?!?  A group completes a M +15 anything and that's your feedback.  You must be a real joy to those around you 🙂 .  Nicely done to the group from Kjell's Angels - I can't even imagine doing a M +15 anything at the moment.  Maybe we'll get lucky and Rhondis will post their awesome +15 Shrine or King's Rest win this week to shut me up 🙂 .

You are aware that this is my opinion right? I was not impressed by them clearing Atal'Dazar, but I did after all congratulate them on getting the world first +15. Besides, Seksi had mentioned they finished Freehold in time after Atal'Dazar so more kudos to them. 

Also welcome to Icy Veins, we are happy to have ya!



 

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13 hours ago, Tarazet said:

Mistweaver, huh? And Prot Paladin? Definitely not a super meta team but I can understand how it worked.

Very much a super meta team .. in Battle for Azeroth.

Class balance is completely upturned from Legion. MW monks and Hpriests who were terrible are now the best healers. Same with Prot Paladins who were non-existant in Legion.

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8 hours ago, Seksi said:

Very much a super meta team .. in Battle for Azeroth.

Class balance is completely upturned from Legion. MW monks and Hpriests who were terrible are now the best healers. Same with Prot Paladins who were non-existant in Legion.

I believe you that they're good, but they're not meta because it hasn't dispersed out to the community. Parse count in M+ dungeons on Warcraftlogs:

Healers:

1. Druid Restoration 7,481

2. Priest Discipline 6,860

3. Paladin Holy 5,630

4. Monk Mistweaver 4,953

5. Priest Holy 4,106

6. Shaman Restoration 3,480

 

Tanks:

1. Death Knight Blood 9,264

2. Demon Hunter Vengeance 6,372

3. Paladin Protection 6,087

4. Monk Brewmaster 5,276

5. Druid Guardian 2,933

6. Warrior Protection 2,547

 

I have my confidence that they could have chosen any combination of classes and done a +15 on time. And there will probably be more this week with different classes. It's great to see variety and to see classes that were under-represented in Legion making a comeback.

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9 minutes ago, Tarazet said:

1. Death Knight Blood 9,264

Jesus, they made Blood Dk's really good this expac it seems! I am actually really surprised that Prot Warriors are at the bottom of the barrel. 

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Blood DK's have always been strong at the start of an expansion, because their Mastery provides a strong absorb allowing them to push harder content earlier than other classes. That's been the case every expansion since Pandaria when they were the undisputed kings of Challenge Mode dungeons.

This time around, Demon Hunters got a substantial boost to their hit point pools, and Paladins got the Holy Shield talent allowing them to block spell damage - plus the ability to dispel Disease effects which is indispensible in several dungeons.

Protection Warriors have high DPS, and some players are getting good results out of them just based on that, but they definitely are in trouble on the M+ side.

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2 hours ago, Tarazet said:

Holy Shield talent allowing them to block spell damage

And so far they are the only ones who can block spell damage since Blizzard removed spell resistance? 

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1 hour ago, Rhondis said:

And so far they are the only ones who can block spell damage since Blizzard removed spell resistance? 

Unless you're using one of those weird Fire Resistance pieces, yup! It's not as good as a full absorb, and it doesn't work against all forms of magical damage, but looking at Details it is a pretty nice contributor to our survival as well as providing a nice amount of DPS from the riposte effect.

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12 minutes ago, Tarazet said:

Unless you're using one of those weird Fire Resistance pieces, yup! It's not as good as a full absorb, and it doesn't work against all forms of magical damage, but looking at Details it is a pretty nice contributor to our survival as well as providing a nice amount of DPS from the riposte effect.

Well that's one way to popularize prot pallies than! I didn't see them all that often last expansion. Mainly because Brewmasters, Blood Dk, and Druid seemed to be the meta mid to late Legion.

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On 9/11/2018 at 8:56 PM, Rhondis said:

You are aware that this is my opinion right? I was not impressed by them clearing Atal'Dazar, but I did after all congratulate them on getting the world first +15. Besides, Seksi had mentioned they finished Freehold in time after Atal'Dazar so more kudos to them. 

Also welcome to Icy Veins, we are happy to have ya!



 

Thanks Rhondis for taking my comments in stride.  I was amazed anyone had completed a M+15 at that point (even now).  My comment was more of a LOL articulation of the differences in our communication styles than an intended jab.  My style is more along the lines of "Wow!  Amazing accomplishment!  I'd love to see something similar for Shrine or Kings if anyone does it soon."

While I'm thinking of it, has anyone posted anything for a M+15 Shrine, Kings or Underrot - as Rhondis mentioned, those have been real @$$-kickers for us, especially with Fortified+Sanguine+Grevious+... (our healers don't wanna touch em).

Anyway, take care and thanks again - cheers.

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On 10/23/2018 at 2:27 PM, Afundude said:

Thanks Rhondis for taking my comments in stride.  I was amazed anyone had completed a M+15 at that point (even now).  My comment was more of a LOL articulation of the differences in our communication styles than an intended jab.  My style is more along the lines of "Wow!  Amazing accomplishment!  I'd love to see something similar for Shrine or Kings if anyone does it soon."

While I'm thinking of it, has anyone posted anything for a M+15 Shrine, Kings or Underrot - as Rhondis mentioned, those have been real @$$-kickers for us, especially with Fortified+Sanguine+Grevious+... (our healers don't wanna touch em).

Anyway, take care and thanks again - cheers.

It's been a little over a month, I still don't find this amazing and yet you do. Your passive aggressive comments won't change my opinion either, so calm down and move on friend.

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On 10/23/2018 at 1:27 PM, Rhondis said:

It's been a little over a month, I still don't find this amazing and yet you do. Your passive aggressive comments won't change my opinion either, so calm down and move on friend.

I was genuinely complimenting you on your style following my comments which could have been worded better ...  Not sure what else to say.  Any "passive aggressive" is interpretation, not intent.

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