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Account-wide Rep Achieves, Ele Shaman, WoW Token Clarifications: September 18th Blue Posts

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A lot of Blue posts today, featuring clarifications on the recent announcement that 8.1 will be making reputation achievements account-wide, two more new Elemental Shaman talents and some discussion on WoW token price drops.

The reputation-related clarifications focused on whether it was actual reputation that is account-wide or just the achievements themselves and how that will work with faction or mutually exclusive achievements:

Blizzard LogoAccount Wide Reputation Achievements (source)

Posted by Dårk
Does this mean for example I'm halfway through honored with 7th legion on this toon. If I get on another alt and level through the 3 zones doing the questline that also give 7th legion rep that will count towards rep on this toon as well and I should be revered? Or vice versa all my alts should be halfway honored when they enter bfa?

Rep gain won't be account wide, however progress towards the achievement will.

Say for example I have Character A that I haven't touched since Wrath, that has all of the previous reps exalted (not using exact numbers here just making an example). Let's say we have 20 reputations at exalted on this character that are unique.

Now I play Character B that I haven't touched those reps with, because I just don't want to grind them again. Let's say this character has 40 unique reputations that Character A doesn't have at exalted. Since its the highest progressed character the achievement only looks at this character. Meaning that I just have 40 reps as far as the achievement is concerned.

Now once I've logged into both of those characters when this change is added into the game, I will then receive credit towards the achievement tracker and I would now show as having 60 reputations on that achievement. So I effectively don't have to go back and get those reps again, unless I want to make my Rep window look pretty.

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Posted by Farora
Any word on how it will treat faction exclusive reps?

They will uniquely act as a singular rep to avoid double credit, similar with how mounts are tracked.

So if you have exalted 7th Legion on your Alliance character, and exalted with Honorbound on your Horde. Then your account only has credit for 1 of those 2 reps in the achievement tracker. Account wise they're the same rep.

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Posted by Worgon

Do you have any info on how Reps that you have to pick 1 of two will count? like oracles/frenzyheart and scryers/aldor? if I have 2 characters 1 with each does it count as 2 or do only 1 of the reps count.

It should count as 1. The intention is not to nerf the achievement or raise the number of reps you can have exalted at once, just to make it ease the burdens of alts/character-switching.

Then we're on to the two new Elemental Shaman talents that will be coming to the PTR as part of the big spec revamp this week:

Blizzard LogoElemental Shaman Talents (source)

Just as a quick update, here's the current version of the experimental new talents that will be hitting the PTR soon. Reminder that these are experimental, the PTR is for testing, we'll probably iterate on or completely replace these designs, etc.

Call the Thunder - Your maximum Maelstrom is increased by 30, and the Maelstrom cost of Earth ShockEarth Shock and EarthquakeEarthquake is reduced by 10.

Surge of Power - Earth Shock also enhances your next spell:

  • Flame ShockFlame Shock: The next cast does not incur a cooldown.
  • Lightning BoltLightning Bolt: Your next 3 casts will cause an additional Elemental Overload.
  • Lava BurstLava Burst: Reduces the cooldown of your Fire (or Storm) Elemental by 6 sec.
  • Frost ShockFrost Shock: Roots the target in place for 6 sec.

And finally, there was a discussion on why exactly the WoW token has dropped in price recently:

Blizzard LogoWoW Token Price Drop (source)

Posted by Merridae
From end of July 2018 to today the WoW Token price has dropped by half.
Make of that metric what you will but it tells me that such a steep decline in such a short timeframe is not a good thing.

This means that more people are buying the Tokens with real money faster than those buying the token with gold. Thus causing the price to fall. It unfortunately means a little less gold for your token, but the market dictates that is how much it's worth at the moment. Lot's of gold is moving around as its still the start of an expansion. It's pretty normal.

In fact it means the opposite of what you're proposing, its good for WoW as a whole because it means people are buying plenty of tokens to sell for gold. Slightly negative for token sellers if anything.

I totally see the point you're making though, in that it implies less people are buying tokens with gold. Which isn't necessarily the truth but rather the value of those selling them for gold has drastically changed causing the price to fall.

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Posted by Swålsh
It’s because the Legion mission tables don’t give gold anymore. I was making 100K/day. Now I make like 5K a day


I think we're still a little too early to see the impact of that within the tokens but it will definitely have an impact in the long run.

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Posted by Crepe
And I think there's more to the equation than A + B = C.

It's very hard to imply or interpret player interest through a single point of data.

Definitely true as well! It's a little harder to infer fully the impact of the token within the economy as you guys don't have sight on the buying and selling rates. I'm pretty sure people can pick up on what I implied though in my explanation. ?

 

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Dear Blizzard,
I don't want to be able to cast an Earth Shock and an Earthquacke in row, I don't want Earth Shock to enhance my other spells.
I WANT TO FREAKING CAST AN ELEMENTAL BLAST FOLLOWED BY 2 UNPROCCED LAVA BURST, SO JUST SHUFFLE THOSE TALENTS AND AVOID PUTTING ECHO AND ELEMENTAL BLAST IN THE SAME ROW!

Sincerely,
An angry (and hungry) Elemental Shaman.

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Ele was in the best spot it’s ever been in last expac. I don’t see why it needed an overhaul, and those two talents sound fairly useless. I think ele players are being punished after Blizz were forced to drop their weird Colossus Smash rotation from the early beta.

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I am still a little confused as to how this account rep is working, so all toons will get credit for the rep progress but still have to grind it separately if they want to actually be exalted to get stuff from that faction? how is that different from what we have now? why not just make all rep account wide so alts can walk up to a faction and be instant exalted and avoid the month long grind to get old outdated content gear and mounts and stuff?

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3 hours ago, Brutalis said:

Ele was in the best spot it’s ever been in last expac.

Funny, I hear all over the place during Legion that WoD Ele shammies were better than the rework in Legion.

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37 minutes ago, BlakeArmentrout said:

I am still a little confused as to how this account rep is working, so all toons will get credit for the rep progress but still have to grind it separately if they want to actually be exalted to get stuff from that faction? how is that different from what we have now? why not just make all rep account wide so alts can walk up to a faction and be instant exalted and avoid the month long grind to get old outdated content gear and mounts and stuff?

I say it explains perfectly, Rep achievements are account wide for the 100 achieve mount, but rep progress is still per char. If you want the items from the rep vendor, gotta work for it...At this moment you might have a alt character with, example: Hydraxian Waterlords, at max rep, it will only have it count towards the 100 on that character, and not the Main you have many others exalted. Its great for me since my Main doesnt have certain rep achievements like some of my others do...

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3 hours ago, Yridaa said:

Funny, I hear all over the place during Legion that WoD Ele shammies were better than the rework in Legion.

It was also great during MoP, being able to cast lightning bolt while moving. WoD removed that, though AoE damage was insane back then, while still having overall pretty good single target. Legion was just ok, imo. Problem now, is that they nerfed elemental in both of these areas, hopefully upcoming changes will fix at least one of these. They said that shaman's weakness should have been it's mobile dps, while excelling on stationary, but not only dps suffers on most fights now, with how much movement they require, but also even when stationary those mobile classes are still easily able to do more. For example, if hunters, warriors and rogues can still do damage while moving, they should do a bit less damage when fight/phase is more stationary, so there is a certain balance and less mobile classes can contribute more. Either that, or just make everyone more mobile with some other niches they specialise in.

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every question about the rep was already answered by ion in the video.. people really should use their brain when watching videos.. and stop bother blues with retarded questions that are already clear. if i were a blue i wouldnt bother my time to answer those stupid questions but link the video again to rewatch.. ion even gave examples how it will work for all those questions..

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4 hours ago, Yridaa said:

Funny, I hear all over the place during Legion that WoD Ele shammies were better than the rework in Legion.

Ele was only good on the last patch of WoD because of the Arch's Ele trinket that buffed Flame Shock by a lot, and a talent that buffed FS even more. but WoD's Ele was not even close as good as MoP's Ele was. 

MoP Ele >> Legion Ele >>>>> WoD Ele (patch 6.2). 

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