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Wyrmrest Accord Guild Achieves Realm First Kil'Jaeden Mythic, Disbands Afterwards

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You read that title correctly: we may be almost two months into Battle for Azeroth, but a guild managed to down the notorious end boss from the penultimate raiding tier of Legion only yesterday.

The Feat of Strength was achieved by  <realm first btw> 1 year and 3 months after the release of Mythic Tomb of Sargeras. The guild proceeded to disband afterwards, although -  according to a comment on Reddit - it was originally created with the sole purpose of achieving this realm first kill. They even shared their nerd screams for this great achievement on Twitch.

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Wyrmrest Accord is one of the most well-known RP servers on the US. Players are obviously not that focused on the competitive aspect of the game, but there's still some raiding presence. Five guilds have cleared Mythic Antorus and four guilds are currently on 2 out of 8 bosses on Mythic Uldir.

Kil'Jaeden was the only boss that had gotten away. The first guild on Tier 20 killed Mythic Fallen Avatar two weeks before the release of Antorus and it seems that afterwards nobody bothered with clearing Tomb of Sargeras.

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Wowprogress still hasn't updated with the KJ kill - if it ever does, given that it was done by a disbanded guild

We all remember what a pleasant walkover of a boss Kil'Jaeden was on Mythic difficulty. The big bad guy, thanks to whom the "mathematically impossible" meme became relevant again, remained alive for 19 days when first released. It took Method 3 resets and 654 wipes to achieve the Kil'Jaeden world first, making it one of the hardest bosses in WoW's history.

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to their defense...

 

i tried to pug ToS Myth yesterday for transmog and avatar was the end

its insane how hard this raid is big respect to all guilds that manage to kill him in legion

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18 minutes ago, Sombra said:

to their defense...

 

i tried to pug ToS Myth yesterday for transmog and avatar was the end

its insane how hard this raid is big respect to all guilds that manage to kill him in legion

Yea, even clearing the raid on Normal difficulty was a pain the keester. I remembered trying to pug Heroics and I just kinda gave up on Heroic Tomb once the pug groups I join keep hitting walls. If only my school/work schedule made it easy on which i can raid with an actual guild...

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1 hour ago, Zadina said:

thanks to whom the "mathematically impossible" meme was created,

Wasn't C'thun the one who spawned that phrase? If I remember correctly, it might have even been Ion who came to that conclusion.

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1 hour ago, Sombra said:

to their defense...

 

i tried to pug ToS Myth yesterday for transmog and avatar was the end

its insane how hard this raid is big respect to all guilds that manage to kill him in legion

ToS was the most fun mythic raid in this game for me, I'm loved every progress there and was my favorite the Maiden where now every second pug can fail in 360 x ) Avatar and KJ was a killer, guild-breaking bosses but the mechanics was just aahw, so cool. I miss ToS so much!

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1 hour ago, jinsu2301 said:

Wasn't C'thun the one who spawned that phrase? If I remember correctly, it might have even been Ion who came to that conclusion.

Ah, you are probably right - I wasn't playing back then but I remember it now. Then again, the term meme didn't exist back in ye olde C'thun days ?

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3 minutes ago, Zadina said:

Ah, you are probably right - I wasn't playing back then but I remember it now. Then again, the term meme didn't exist back in ye olde C'thun days ?

I heard the term used for Yogg-Saron 25 with no keepers as well.

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Hi! I figured I'd give a little bit of history on Fallen Avatar and big bad ol' KJ himself.

The guild I was co-leading mostly had people that were in their late 20s to early 30s. We wanted to aim for KJ, but during Fallen Avatar progress, we ended up hitting Blizzcon and attendance became a rough topic for us. We would miss multiple raid nights at a time simply because people just had no choice but to focus on real life and with Wyrmrest Accord not really having much of a recruitment pool, we didn't exactly have an overflowing roster. At one point, we actually went almost two weeks without getting a pull in on Fallen Avatar, simply because the timing of when this raid hit us.

When we finally reached KJ, we had decided it just wasn't worth the stress to continue progressing on him. We managed to make it past the first intermission and push into phase 2, but people were already burnt. We wanted a break for Antorus so we all agreed with how things were going, it was probably best to just focus our time on relaxing before we had to immediately rush into new content. Funnily enough, Antorus for us ended with a guild sitting at -exactly- 100th US.

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4 hours ago, jinsu2301 said:

Wasn't C'thun the one who spawned that phrase? If I remember correctly, it might have even been Ion who came to that conclusion.

Rag was first, but C'thun was more famous because he was hilariously OP.

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3 hours ago, Laragon said:

Rag was first, but C'thun was more famous because he was hilariously OP.

He wasn‘t just hilariously OP but absolutely unkillable.

And by that I mean that people have done simulations proving that the perfect raid setup wearing the best available gear and playing their class and the fight without a single flaw couldn‘t down the boss.

It was, in fact, mathematically impossible.

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On 9/25/2018 at 11:12 PM, Ghoullove said:

He wasn‘t just hilariously OP but absolutely unkillable.

And by that I mean that people have done simulations proving that the perfect raid setup wearing the best available gear and playing their class and the fight without a single flaw couldn‘t down the boss.

It was, in fact, mathematically impossible.

Interestingly enough, one of the the first people to determine this was Ion, back when he was a raid leader for Elitist Jerks in 06. He posted on their forum board about the raid needing to do a combined 240k DPS which was theoretically doable, but impossible in practice due to how the fight was set up. Because of this, I found it kind of ironic when he admitted that MFetid was mathematically impossible.

 

The next major boss that was impossible to kill was KT, although that was mostly due to how bugged his fight was. Between dead adds not dropping threat, invisible mechanics, and the shield having a longer CD then the spell it needed to block, the fight was undoable.

If I recall correctly, the next use of the phrase wasn't until Ulduar, with 25M Hodir HM and 25M Yogg No Watchers both deemed impossible due to fight mechanics. Hodir ended up needing the Flower Power buff from Freya's room to clear initially and it took an insanely complex kiting pattern for Yogg to eventually fall.

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