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Heroes of the Storm Balance Patch: April 17th

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The latest balance patch brings notable Hero changes and the removal of all party-size restrictions to decrease queue times.

Patch Highlights

  • All Party-size restrictions during matchmaking have been removed to decrease queue times.
  • The enemy party size will no longer be displayed during the match loading screen.
  • Blizzard looked at Mana tension in the game and adjusted Mana cost of multiple abilities to bring the outliers closer to the center.
  • Viewing replays generated between March 26's and April 17's patches has been disabled to prevent game crashes.
  • The latest balance patch includes many Hero changes. Check out the patch notes below for more information.

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Heroes of the Storm has just been updated with Hero balance changes and bug fixes! Read on for details.

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General 

  • The party size of enemies will no longer be shown during the match loading screen
  • Removed all party-size restrictions during the matchmaking process
Developer Comment: These changes should help address both queue times for certain party sizes while also removing the pre-game bias that forms when facing parties of players that may be larger than your own. Our simulations have shown positive results with these changes–please give us your feedback as we will be closely monitoring their impact.

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Heroes 

Developer Comment: As we promised in the past, we took a look at the overall Mana tension of all the Heroes in the game. We also have some philosophies about Mana that we want to keep going forward. They are:Return to Top

  1. Mana should be a meaningful part of the game, particularly in the early stages when wave clear is at a higher premium. We believe that as the game progresses, Mana tension should become less important as Heroes gain more base Mana and the game’s focus shifts to team fighting.
  2. Mana tension doesn’t have to be the same for every Hero, but every Hero should feel it to some degree, otherwise it serves no purpose.
  3. We like that some talents heavily mitigate Mana tension.
When we took a look at Mana tension in the game, we saw that, overall, things are in a fairly healthy spot, but could be fine-tuned and improved upon. We like the tension that the heroes who are closer to the middle of the spectrum have, with some examples being Malfurion, Tychus, and E.T.C. Our goal with these changes is to bring the outliers closer to the center. We are open to your feedback going forward if you think that the game needs to be stricter or more lenient in this area, or if you believe there are any outliers that we missed.

Tank

Anub'arak

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Stats

  • Basic Attack damage reduced from 85 to 81

Abilities

  • ImpaleImpale (Q)
    • Damage reduced from 95 to 90
  • Burrow ChargeBurrow Charge (E)
    • Damage reduced from 96 to 91

Talents

  • Level 1
    • Legion of BeetlesLegion of Beetles (Trait)
      • Spell Armor reduced from 40 to 30
  • Level 10
    • CocoonCocoon (R2)
      • Cooldown increased from 60 to 70 seconds

Developer Comment: Since his last round of changes, Anub'arak has been performing a little too well. We're knocking him down a peg with small nerfs to his overall damage, Legion of Beetles, and Cocoon.

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Arthas

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Abilities

  • Frozen TempestFrozen Tempest (E)
    • Mana cost reduced from 15 to 13 per second

Talents

  • Level 4
    • Frozen WastesFrozen Wastes (E)
      • Mana cost reduction reduced from 4 to 2 per second

Developer Comment: For Arthas' Mana tension, we decided to give him some of the benefit for taking Frozen Wastes at Level 4 baseline. We still like that he has relatively high Mana tension that he can reduce by taking Eternal Hunger or Frozen Wastes, but we feel that he is currently too dependent on taking one of these talents, so we are reducing the opportunity cost for going with other options.

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Diablo

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Abilities

  • Fire StompFire Stomp (W)
    • Mana cost increased from 30 to 35

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Garrosh

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Abilities

  • GroundbreakerGroundbreaker (Q)
    • Mana cost increased from 30 to 40

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Stitches

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Abilities

  • SlamSlam (W)
    • Mana cost increased from 35 to 40

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Bruiser

Dehaka

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Talents

  • Level 1
    • Enduring SwarmEnduring Swarm (W)
      • Additional Functionality: Increase the duration of Dark Swarm by .5 seconds
  • Level 4
    • Lurker StrainLurker Strain (E)
      • Additional Functionality: Reduce the cooldown of Burrow by 4 seconds
  • Level 10
    • IsolationIsolation (R1)
      • Mana cost reduced from 100 to 70
    • AdaptationAdaptation (R2)
      • Cooldown reduced from 80 to 60 seconds
      • Mana cost reduced from 85 to 70
  • Level 13
    • Ferocious StalkerFerocious Stalker (W)
      • Additional Functionality: Now also causes Dark Swarm to Slow enemy heroes by 15% for .75 seconds while Brushstalker's movement Speed bonus is active
      • Now shows Crit kickers when dealing increased damage

Developer Comment: We took a look at some of Dehaka’s less popular talents and are making some changes that should open up new build paths for everyone’s favorite Primal Zerg.

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Imperius

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Abilities

  • Solarion's FireSolarion's Fire (W)
    • Mana cost reduced from 60 to 50
  • Molten ArmorMolten Armor (E)
    • Mana cost increased from 50 to 75

Talents

  • Level 1
    • Consuming FlameConsuming Flame (W)
      • Adjusted Functionality: No longer has a quest component; Imperius gains bonus damage and slow to Solarion's Fire when picking the talent
      • Bonus damage reduced from 150 to 125
  • Level 4
    • Bulwark of FlameBulwark of Flame (W)
      • Physical Armor amount increased from 70 to 75
      • Maximum Charges increased from 4 to 6
    • Unshakable FaithUnshakable Faith (E)
      • Adjusted Functionality: No longer requires removing a disabling effect in order for Imperius to be healed
      • Healing reduced from 250 to 200
  • Level 7
    • Flash of AngerFlash of Anger (Q)
      • Damage increased from 180 to 198
      • Now shows Crit kickers when this damage procs
    • Holy FervorHoly Fervor (Active)
      • Cooldown increased from 18 to 25 seconds

Developer Comment: Imperius is performing exactly where we would like him to, with a win rate of exactly 50.0% at high level play. While we love basking in this balance nirvana, Imperius does suffer from some pick rate issues, particularly in his earlier tiers. Rather than only nerfing the talents that are often picked, we are instead looking to buff up the alternatives in hope that they see more play.

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Malthael

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Talents

  • Level 10
    • Tormented SoulsTormented Souls (R1)
      • Additional Functionality: When Tormented Souls is cast and when it expires, reset the cooldown of Wraith Strike

Developer Comment: We promised Tomo00 that we would do this in our last AMA. This is us keeping that promise.

Our reasoning behind this change is that we want to make Tormented Souls more interesting, but due to its ease of use and previous meta-defining power, we are hesitant to give mechanics like more Healing, Armor, or Life Steal that simply add power to the Heroic. Instead, we are giving Malthael the ability to create more options for himself by having more opportunities to move around the battlefield with Wraith Strike.

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Rexxar

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Talents

  • We've adjusted Rexxar's talents to be positioned in the same order as other heroes (ex. Q talents on top, then W, then E)
  • Level 1
    • Easy PreyEasy Prey (Passive)
      • Bonus damage no longer applies to Misha, Charge!
      • Bonus damage to Minions and Mercenaries increased from 150% to 200%

Developer Comment: An unintended side-effect of buffing the damage of Misha, Charge! to be much more meaningful was its interaction with Easy Prey. We intend Easy Prey to be the better talent when taking Mercenary Camps, while having a smaller effect of buffing Rexxar’s general wave clear. When this talent also becomes the best Wave Clear option, it encroaches too much on Bird of Prey’s design space, so we’re removing that functionality.

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Varian

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Abilities

  • ParryParry (W)
    • Mana cost increased from 20 to 30

Talents

  • Level 1
    • Lion's MawLion's Maw (Q)
      • Damage bonus per hit increased from 4 to 5
      • Enemy Heroes hit required for quest completion reduced from 30 to 25
    • High King's QuestHigh King's Quest (Passive)
      • Damage bonus upon quest completion reduced from 45 to 30

Developer Comment: In addition to bringing Varian’s Mana costs in line, we are slightly increasing the power of Lion’s Maw and reducing the power of High King’s Quest. Currently High King’s Quest is outperforming other options on the tier, and is the go-to talent when going Twin Blades, which we are also seeing perform a little too well at the lower to mid-levels of play.

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Xul

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Abilities

  • Cursed StrikesCursed Strikes (W)
    • Mana cost reduced from 60 to 50

Talents

  • Level 4
    • Reaper's TollReaper's Toll (Q)
      • Quest requirement reduced from 20 to 16
      • Additional Functionality: When completed, now also reduces the Mana cost of Spectral Scythe by 20

Developer Comment: In addition to reducing Cursed Strikes Mana cost to more normalize Xul’s Mana usage compared to other Heroes, we are also buffing Reaper’s Toll, which has been underperforming compared to other talents on its tier.

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Yrel

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Talents

  • Level 1
    • Light of KaraborLight of Karabor (Q)
      • Adjusted Functionality: Increase Vindication's radius by 15%. If Vindication hits an enemy Hereo, increase its healing by 40%. If Vindication hits 2 or more enemy Heroes, increase its healing by 80%.
    • DauntlessDauntless (Passive)
      • Physical Armor amount increased from 35 to 50
  • Level 10
    • Sacred Ground (R2)
      • Armor amount increased from 40 to 50

Developer Comment: With these changes, we're trying to buff up Yrel’s lesser-picked talents to compete with their counterparts. I’m trying to think of ways to fluff up this dev comment but there’s not much more to say here… so yeah, that’s it!

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Healer

Ana

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Talents

  • Level 4
    • Biotic EnhancementsBiotic Enhancements (W)
      • Cooldown reduction reduced from 4 seconds to 2 seconds
    • OverdoseOverdose (E)
      • Additional Functionality: While Aim Down Sights is active, Sleep Dart now pierces all enemy Heroes
  • Level 7
    • Night Terrors
      • Damage increased from 8% to 10% maximum Health

Developer Comment: While we are very happy with Ana's new direction since her rework, her early level talent diversity is not as great as we would like. We’re improving some of her other options to better compete with Biotic Grenade-focused talents and slightly nerfing the Grenade build, which we’re hoping will open up new ways to play her.

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Deckard Cain

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Abilities

  • Healing PotionHealing Potion (Q)
    • Healing amount increased from 255 to 270
  • Horadric CubeHoradric Cube (W)
    • Cooldown reduced from 14 seconds to 12 seconds
    • Mana cost reduced from 40 to 35

Talents

  • Level 4
    • RubyRuby (Active)
      • Lesser Healing Potion amount increased from 220 to 250
  • Level 7
    • Cube MasteryCube Mastery (W)
      • Additonal Functionality: Reduce the Mana cost of Scroll of Sealing from 40 to 30

Developer Comment: Despite our recent buffs, Deckard is still underperforming compared to other Heroes. While before we generally targeted his later talents, this time we are targeting his base kit and earlier talents, which should have a greater impact on his performance over the entire game.

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Lúcio

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Talents

  • Level 7
    • BoomboxBoombox (Active)
      • Health of the Boombox has been increased from 217 to 350
  • Level 10
    • High FiveHigh Five (R2)
      • Mana cost decreased from 50 to 35
  • Level 16
    • Up the FrequencyUp the Frequency (E)
      • Cooldown reduction per Basic Attack reduced from .45 to .4 seconds
  • Level 20
    • House PartyHouse Party (W)
      • Bonus healing per ally in Crossfade aura reduced from 10% to 8%

Developer Comment: Lúcio’s rework has turned out to be pretty balanced so far. We're seeing both decent win rates and talent pick rates across the gathered data. There were a couple outliers that we have made some small changes to, especially the higher Mana cost of High Five. We will continue to monitor and make additional tweaks as necessary!

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Rehgar

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Talents

  • Level 16
    • Rising StormRising Storm (W)
      • New Functionality: Casting Lightning Shield on an ally also casts an untalented version on Rehgar. Every time either Lightning Shield damages an enemy Hero, increase the damage of both Lightning Shields. Stacks up to 15 times.
      • Damage reduced from 15% to 10% per stack

Developer Comment: While we felt that the talent offered some cool gameplay for Rehgar, we removed Lightning Bond in the past due to its ability to make Rehgar incredibly powerful at clearing Minion waves and taking Mercenary Camps at a time in the game where these aspects of a Hero are incredibly powerful. We’re giving him back that power, but introducing it at Level 16, where its primary focus will more often be on improving his team fighting potential.

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Stukov

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Talents

  • We've adjusted Stukov's Level 1 talents to be positioned in the same order as other heroes (ex. Q talents on top, then W then E)
  • Level 1
    • Reactive BallistosporesReactive Ballistospores (W)
      • Moved from Level 13
      • Cooldown increased from 10 to 15 seconds
  • Level 4
    • Biotic ArmorBiotic Armor (Q)
      • Armor bonus when detonating Bio-Kill switch increased from 50 to 75
  • Level 10
    • Flailing SwipeFlailing Swipe (R1)
      • Mana cost reduced from 100 to 80
  • Level 13
    • Poppin' PustulesPoppin' Pustules (Trait)
      • Moved from Level 1
      • Damage bonus increased from 100% to 150%

Developer Comment: In order to improve the pick and win rates of Reactive Ballistospores and Poppin’ Pustules, we're switching the talents with one another. This should open up new talent synergy possibilities for Poppin’ Pustules and offer the considerable strength of Reactive Ballistospores earlier in the game. We’re also buffing Biotic Armor to be a fairly significant Physical Armor buff when Bio-Kill Switch is activated, which should make its moment of power feel much more meaningful.

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Uther

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Abilities

  • Holy LightHoly Light (Q)
    • Mana cost reduced from 90 to 80

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Support

Abathur

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Abilities

  • Locust StrainLocust Strain (Trait)
    • Damage increased from 40 to 46
  • CarapaceCarapace (E)
    • Shield amount reduced from 157 to 150

Talents

  • Level 1
    • Reinforced CarapaceReinforced Carapace (E)
      • Bonus Shielding reduced from 40% to 30%
    • Survival InstinctsSurvival Instincts (Trait)
      • Bonus Health increased from 60% to 100%
  • Level 4
    • Prolific DispersalProlific Dispersal
      • Additional Functionality: Now also increases the range of Toxic Nest by 30%
  • Level 13
    • Bombard StrainBombard Strain (Trait)
      • Duration bonus increased from 50% to 75%
  • Level 16
    • Volatile MutationVolatile Mutation (Heroic)
      • Healing increased from 50% to 75% of the damage dealt

Developer Comment: Abathur has been performing fairly well since his rework. However, his non-Carapace related talents could use some love compared to other options. We're giving Abathur some buffs to play styles that focus more on controlling the map and taking some power out of Carapace to compensate.

Melee Assassin

Alarak

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Abilities

  • Discord StrikeDiscord Strike (Q)
    • Mana cost increased from 45 to 55

Talents

  • Level 1
    • Ruthless MomentumRuthless Momentum (W)
      • Adjusted Functionality: Reduce the Mana cost of Telekinesis from 30 to 20. Telekinesis' cooldown recharges 100% faster while above 75% health
      • Telekinesis' button will now glow when this cooldown bonus is active
  • Level 13
    • Blade of the HighlordBlade of the Highlord (Trait)
      • Maximum Sadism bonus increased from 30% to 40%

Developer Comment: We’ve gotten feedback from players that they missed the old Quick Mind talent that existed before Alarak’s rework, as it allowed them to use Telekinesis in more creative ways since they felt more free to cast the ability when it was on a shorter cooldown. We agree, and we're using the Ruthless Momentum talent to allow this to happen. Instead of reducing all of Alarak’s cooldowns, we're instead specializing the talent to greatly reduce the cooldown of Telekinesis. This should allow players who pick this talent to reposition themselves, peel for their allies, or fish for initiations on the enemy more often.

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Butcher

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Abilities

  • Butcher's BrandButcher's Brand (W)
    • Mana cost reduced from 65 to 60
  • Ruthless OnslaughtRuthless Onslaught (E)
    • Mana cost reduced from 55 to 50

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Zeratul

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Abilities

  • Singularity SpikeSingularity Spike (W)
    • Mana cost reduced from 80 to 70

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Ranged Assassin

Azmodan

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Abilities

  • Globe of AnnihilationGlobe of Annihilation (Q)
    • Mana cost increased from 60 to 70
  • Summon Demon WarriorSummon Demon Warrior (W)
    • Mana cost reduced from 30 to 25
  • All Shall BurnAll Shall Burn (E)
    • Mana cost reduced from 40 to 30

Talents

  • Level 7
    • Art of ChaosArt of Chaos (Q)
      • Mana refund increased from 30 to 40

Developer Comment: To promote some build diversity away from Globe of Annihilation, we're moving around some of Azmodan’s Mana costs. We are increasing the Mana cost of Globe of Annihilation, but reducing it from Summon Demon Warrior and All Shall Burn. This should make Azmodan think a little more in the early game about casting optimal Globes to stack properly, while leaving him freer to use his other abilities when necessary. In the later parts of the game, this should also be a buff to other non-Q centric talents like Hell Rift and Sin’s Grasp.

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Chromie

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Stats

  • Basic Attack damage increased from 73 to 82

Abilities

  • Sand BlastSand Blast (Q)
    • Damage increased from 280 to 315
    • Echo damage reduced from 50% to 40% of Chromie's damage
  • Dragon's BreathDragon's Breath (W)
    • Damage increased from 195 to 204
    • Coolddown reduced from 15 to 14 seconds
    • Mana cost reduced from 75 to 65
  • Time TrapTime Trap (E)
    • Mana cost reduced from 30 to 20

Talents

  • Level 1
    • Deep BreathingDeep Breathing (W)
      • Damage bonus increased from 2 (up to 50) to 3 (up to 60)
      • Damage bonus at Quest Complete increased from an additional 50 to 60
    • Timewalker's PursuitTimewalker's Pursuit (Active)
      • No longer provides Mana Regeneration at Quest Complete
      • Spell Power bonus increased from 5% to 10%
  • Level 2
    • Andorhal AnomalyAndorhal Anomaly (E)
      • Cooldown reduction increased from 5 to 8 seconds
    • Chronic ConditionsChronic Conditions (E)
      • Slow increased from 25% to 30%
  • Level 8
    • Slowing SandsSlowing Sands (R1)
      • Mana cost reduced from 4 to 3 per second
  • Level 11
    • Gnome Speed Ahead!Gnome Speed Ahead! (Q)
      • No longer increases Mana Regeneration
    • Here and ThereHere and There (Active)
      • Range increased from 9 to 11
      • Range from which you can teleport to an Echo increased from 3 to 4
      • Cooldown reduced from 30 to 25
  • Level 14
    • Shifting SandsShifting Sands (Q)
      • Spell Power bonus per enemy hit reduced from 8% to 5%
      • Spell Power bonus maximum increased from 40% to 50%
      • Duration reduced from 10 to 8 seconds
    • Fast ForwardFast Forward (Q)
      • Cooldown of Sand Blast reduced from .75 to .5 seconds
      • Range required to hit Sand Blast reduced from 70% to 50%
    • Quantum OverdriveQuantum Overdrive (Active)
      • Cooldown increased from 30 to 45 seconds
      • Duration reduced from 10 to 8 seconds
      • Hitting an enemy Hero with Sand Blast reduces Quantum Overdrive's cooldown by 3 seconds
  • Level 18
    • UnravellingUnravelling (R1)
      • Spell Armor reduction increased from 2 to 5 per 0.25 seconds (maximum is still -30)
    • Stuck in a LoopStuck in a Loop (R2)
      • Now also increases recharge rate from 500% to 700%
    • Blessing of the BronzeBlessing of the Bronze (Active)
      • Is now an activatable Talent with a 90 second cooldown
      • Now lasts 8 seconds
      • Basic Ability recharge rate increased from 30% to 35%
      • Movement Speed increased from 10% to 20%

Developer Comment: We’re pretty happy with how Chromie’s rework is playing, though there is a small amount of space to buff her up overall (even with the understanding that her winrate will go up as players get used to her new playstyle). We’re trying to give a small buff to her base kit, while also balancing out a few of the Talent tiers. In particular, we’re changing Blessing of the Bronze to be an activated ability, so that opponents have greater counterplay. Chromie (and the community) saw this one coming, so we were ready to pull the trigger quickly on this change.

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Greymane

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Abilities

  • Razor SwipeRazor Swipe (Q)
    • Mana cost reduced from 30 to 25

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Hanzo

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Abilities

  • Storm BowStorm Bow (Q)
    • Mana cost increased from 15 to 20
  • Scatter ArrowScatter Arrow (W)
    • Mana cost increased from 40 to 50

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Li-Ming

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Abilities

  • Aether WalkerAether Walker (E)
    • Adjusted Functionality: Now removes the Mana cost of Teleport

Developer Comment: How about now?

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Lunara

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Abilities

  • Crippling SporesCrippling Spores (W)
    • Mana cost increased from 40 to 50

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Raynor

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Abilities

  • Penetrating RoundPenetrating Round (Q)
    • Mana cost increased from 50 to 65
  • InspireInspire (W)
    • Mana cost increased from 40 to 50

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Sgt. Hammer

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Abilities

  • Spider MinesSpider Mines (Q)
    • Mana cost increased from 45 to 50
  • Concussive BlastConcussive Blast (W)
    • Mana cost increased from 60 to 80
  • Neosteel PlatingNeosteel Plating (E)
    • Mana cost increased from 30 to 60

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Sylvanas

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Talents

  • Level 4
    • PossessionPossession (Active)
      • Cooldown increased from 8 to 12 seconds

Developer Comment: Possession provides Sylvanas a significant swing in pushing power while also outperforming other talents in its tier. To bring both of these in line, we're increasing its cooldown so that she has to think more about when she wants to use its effect.

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Zul'jin

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Abilities

  • Grievous ThrowGrievous Throw (Q)
    • Mana cost reduced from 50 to 40

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Bug Fixes 

  • The AI now has a better understanding of when to attack and when to defend Immortals on Battlefield of Eternity
  • Garrosh is no longer able to throw Hanamura Temple's Payload
  • Chromie can no longer use Here and ThereHere and There to get outside of a Battleground's playable area
  • The Caldeum Complex event now displays the correct time remaining in the Quest Panel
  • Cyberpunk skin tints now properly display with the Spring Event icon in the Collection
  • Viewing replays generated between March 26's and April 17's patches has been disabled to prevent client crashes

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Mana changes might or might not be important, depending on hero.

I am glad they are buffing Deckard's healing numbers again. And Rehgar's lighting bond is back!

Not sure about those party changes, tho. For me it might at least reduce pre-game tilt.

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14 hours ago, Stan said:

Level 7

  •  Flash of AngerFlash of Anger (Q)
    • Damage increased from 180 to 198
    • Now shows Crit kickers when this damage procs
  • Holy FervorHoly Fervor (Active)
    • Cooldown increased from 18 to 25 seconds

 

I see, they aren't buffing the weakest talent in the game.

14 hours ago, Stan said:

Twin Blades, which we are also seeing perform a little too well at the lower to mid-levels of play.

 

Twin Blyat nerf. What world are we living in?

14 hours ago, Stan said:

Level 4

  •  Biotic EnhancementsBiotic Enhancements (W)
    • Cooldown reduction reduced from 4 seconds to 2 seconds

 

So this is the only nerf Ana get? Wtf?

And no Zeratul Q build nerf. 

14 hours ago, Stan said:

Blessing of the BronzeBlessing of the Bronze (Active)

  • Is now an activatable Talent with a 90 second cooldown
  • Now lasts 8 seconds
  • Basic Ability recharge rate increased from 30% to 35%
  • Movement Speed increased from 10% to 20%

Hah.

14 hours ago, Stan said:
  • Aether Walker (E)
    • Adjusted Functionality: Now removes the Mana cost of Teleport

 Developer Comment: How about now?

No. DansGame

14 hours ago, Stan said:

The AI now has a better understanding of when to attack and when to defend Immortals on Battlefield of Eternity

That should teach'em a lesson.

14 hours ago, Stan said:

Garrosh is no longer able to throw Hanamura Temple's Payload

!!

Could you actually do that?

 

 

Edit: LaRgEsT pAtCh EvEr BTW

Edited by ShadowerDerek
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On 4/17/2019 at 5:46 PM, Stan said:

Chromie

Level 11

Here and ThereHere and There (Active)

  • Range increased from 9 to 11
  • Range from which you can teleport to an Echo increased from 3 to 4

Wait... so if the range on it is 9 to 11 then why is there ALSO a teleport range of only 3 to 4?? o_O?

 I KNEW it felt like this talent was FAR shorter then 9 to begin with. Now I know why. So the range 11 (formally 9) means nothing as far as I can tell, it's ACTUALLY only range 4 (formally 3). This talent is such trash now because of the apparent secondary range on it (that was not mentioned in the original change in the rework by the way) is really the primary range. Please someone else explain to me what the range 11 part even is for to begin with??

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21 hours ago, ShadowerDerek said:

And no Zeratul Q build nerf. 

Seriously! I so agree! It's really the only thing I see anyone pick when he's played. LOL!

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4 hours ago, ArtVandelay said:

Twin blades nerf is stupid.  It is very situational already.

A nerf to Twin Blades might have been nice too. I'm on that Mid to Lower end and Twin Blades is ALMOST ALWAYS picked on this end of players playing Varian. And it feels like he's unbeatable once he gets going. I've seen him take on 1v3s AND WIN numerous times on this end of the player spectrum. And even 1v4s a few times. It's so WTF.

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4 hours ago, CyberDVonaven said:

Seriously! I so agree! It's really the only thing I see anyone pick when he's played. LOL!

Zeratul Q build's late game is so stupidly OP right now. High AOE damage, high mobility, high self sustain, on top of Void Prison. It's very oppressive. He's first ban/pick worthy because of that. 

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11 hours ago, CyberDVonaven said:

Wait... so if the range on it is 9 to 11 then why is there ALSO a teleport range of only 3 to 4?? o_O?

 I KNEW it felt like this talent was FAR shorter then 9 to begin with. Now I know why. So the range 11 (formally 9) means nothing as far as I can tell, it's ACTUALLY only range 4 (formally 3). This talent is such trash now because of the apparent secondary range on it (that was not mentioned in the original change in the rework by the way) is really the primary range. Please someone else explain to me what the range 11 part even is for to begin with??

Actually, what they mean by primary range is how close from the echo you must be to trigger it, and secondary range is how far around the echo you can teleport to. So, now your echo needs to be 11 units close to you to allow teleportation to it. If you fulfill that requirement, you can teleport to any location within a 4 units circle around the echo.

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On 4/18/2019 at 10:52 PM, ShadowerDerek said:

Zeratul Q build's late game is so stupidly OP right now. High AOE damage, high mobility, high self sustain, on top of Void Prison. It's very oppressive. He's first ban/pick worthy because of that. 

As if Void Prison wasn’t already one of the best heroics in the game. Combine that with the fact that he’s probably the best late-game hero in the game right now. He really deserved a heavy nerf to his 16 and 20.

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On 4/19/2019 at 8:49 AM, lChronosl said:

Actually, what they mean by primary range is how close from the echo you must be to trigger it, and secondary range is how far around the echo you can teleport to. So, now your echo needs to be 11 units close to you to allow teleportation to it. If you fulfill that requirement, you can teleport to any location within a 4 units circle around the echo.

Thank you SO MUCH for explaining that out Chronos! ❤️ It would have been nice if they could have done the same in the rework patch notes for the new function of it too. I feel pretty damn sure most people, like I did, have NO IDEA that that's how it works now. You're great Chronos ? 

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