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It seems we're getting one or more of these every day now, with players simply convinced that something is off with the Classic beta. Today's edition features Elite mob damage being too low and that Classic is a lot easier than Vanilla was. Here's Blizzard's reply:

Blizzard LogoElite Damage (source)

We tested this issue in our reference environment today.

First, we looked at a video from the WoW Classic Beta, where the player was tanking Rhahk’zor in Deadmines at level 20:

If you look at his portrait while he’s getting hit, you can see him receiving 65-83 damage from Rhahk’zor. The average hit is ~75.

We then recreated it in the WoW Classic Beta-- a level 20 human warrior with similar gear, with Defensive Stance, and with Mark of the Wild. Here’s what that looked like:

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We then did the same thing in our 1.12 reference environment. There, the test looked like this:

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Conclusion: the average damage taken is identical.

 

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hahaha i love this - i guarantee there is a significant portion of people who are pumped for classic either 1) are having selective memory over what the game was actually like or 2) never played vanilla.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, ThomasC said:

hahaha i love this - i guarantee there is a significant portion of people who are pumped for classic either 1) are having selective memory over what the game was actually like or 2) never played vanilla.

 

 

That is precisely what is going on.

It's definitely true that some people legit want to play the classic because they enjoyed that type of MMO gameplay, There is definitely a significant number of people who don't understand, or quite accurately remember, exactly what vanilla was like.

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Vanilla players: "Vanilla was the best. The game was perfect."

Also Vanilla players: "Odd... I don't remember these 'bugs'. Blizzard, what are you doing?"

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I don't think it's perfect but it's DEFINITELY more immersive. Rewards in the form of gear and talent points/levels feel like proper rewards. Figuring out quests make you think about what you're doing instead of just being brain dead and following an arrow.

I'm not a big classic hype man and couldn't really care one way or the other when the beta dropped. However, it's obvious that the classic world draws you in more than retail. Even Venruki the classic hater admitted that.

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I remember leveling up as a prot warrior. I do not want to re-live that experience. The thing I liked about vanilla were the spec unlocking quests for classes and some trade-skills. Still have the amulet that summons a smithing hammer on my warrior. (Quest that took place or at least finished in STV for smiths.)

The only reason I am tempted to play classic is for the original Nax priest gear. My odds of getting the gear in a 40m raid is much better then getting it at the Black Market. Even if it doesn't unlock stuff on the 'main' wow servers, it would be nice to say I have it. (I was annoyed at the redesign of the T7 gear for priests.)

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Most of the Classic community doesn't have an active account yet, which you need to get into beta. So most of these folks are retail players spoiled by the babying the modern game does and think everything hard from Classic is a bug.

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I didn't even know what a tank was until like level 40. I knew people always said we needed a warrior when I ran Deadmines, Stockades, Scarlet Monastery, etc, but I doubt any of the warriors I ran with were prot spec at those levels. A hunter pet always seemed like an adequate tank, and I definitely ran dungeons while leveling that were like 3 rogues, a mage and a healer.

Also, elite damage had to be lower because barely anyone had a way to self heal back then.

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2 hours ago, Sileka said:

I remember leveling up as a prot warrior. I do not want to re-live that experience. The thing I liked about vanilla were the spec unlocking quests for classes and some trade-skills. Still have the amulet that summons a smithing hammer on my warrior. (Quest that took place or at least finished in STV for smiths.)

The only reason I am tempted to play classic is for the original Nax priest gear. My odds of getting the gear in a 40m raid is much better then getting it at the Black Market. Even if it doesn't unlock stuff on the 'main' wow servers, it would be nice to say I have it. (I was annoyed at the redesign of the T7 gear for priests.)

Levelling as any warrior:

 

"Not enough rage.    Not enough rage.   Not enough rage."

 

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5 hours ago, Migol said:

Levelling as any warrior:

 

"Not enough rage.    Not enough rage.   Not enough rage."

 

Leveling? Try raiding as a non tank... It still wakes me up at night.

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