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Eternal Palace Day 13: Method and Limit 1 and 2, Nerdscreams, Interviews

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The headline of the day was obviously Method claiming yet another World First, which we've already covered, but once Limit actually got back to the raid it didn't take them long to get their own Azshara kill. We also take a look at the massively different wipe counts, get to hear a lot of nerdscreams, some interviews, and check in with the guilds fighting for that third spot.

First off, a note on the Method kill, as it caused a bit of confusion, as Raider.io marked Josh as a Shadow Priest incorrectly, when he was in fact Disc, making it a 2-heal, as we've already discussed. We also got to hear Method's nerdscreams for the fight, which were certainly both joy and relief, considering that stressful 0.9% wipe from before:

We also got a release date for that multi-PoV video there as well. The Method stream post-raid show talked to a lot of raiders, most notably raid leader Scrype and GM Sco, but Scrype's really went into detail on the fight so we're going to focus on that for now. Sco's interview is a while after that so just click through the VoD to find it, you can't miss that giant man with the newly added nerdy glasses.


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The wipe count for Method's Queen Azshara progress varies a little, but it's between 356 and 358, but it's very much worth noting that Method had a much more deliberate and slow style of pulls, as they took breaks at least every 3-5 tries to talk things over, look at what went wrong in previous pulls and modify various aspects of their strat. Their wipe count is massively smaller than Limit's, with almost 200 less pulls, but that really is mostly due to the different styles the two guilds have. In terms of Method's overall wipe count in the Palace, we have Za'qul 169, Council at 17, Orgozoa at 58 and Lady Ashvane at 37, with no wipes on the first three bosses.

And to wrap up the Method part of today's highlights, we have tank and one of the main tacticians, Justwait, explaining why progress went slower earlier on in Azshara progress:

And then it's on to Limit, who took a long break to sleep in and rest, presumably after finding out the WF had been taken, as they re-entered the raid some 4 hours later than usual (although they did also go to sleep 2-3 hours later the day before). It took them around an hour to get back to speed, but they then immediately jumped far ahead of their best, getting a 7% try, down from their 13% previous best. It took them another 2 and a half hours to get to that kill, a total of around 4 after raid start, which is actually pretty fast, as Method took 3 hours to get theirs after their start for the day. The kill itself was extremely tight and exciting towards the end, as only 2 raid members survived and just barely managed to make it - although even if they hadn't they would have gotten it down very soon after that.


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And here's their 3-heal composition:

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It took Limit a staggering 528 pulls to get the Queen down, as they stuck to their guns and pushed through with their own strategy and raid composition.

Here's the post-World 2nd interview with Limit's GM Max and Preheat:


37:47:33

In the end, the two top guilds actually weren't that far apart and it all could have ended very differently if just a few factors changed. In any case, this particular race has been one of the better ones in recent memory, with the lead constantly changing hands from day to day, even on the Azshara fight itself, but Method did pull through in the end to claim their 12th endboss and race win. From everything we've seen from these two guilds, Method's victory in future races is far from a forgone conclusion, as a lot of people are saying, but anyone that actually followed the race knows that that's simply not true. Limit gave them a serious run for their money, and challenged them to become even better, while also just barely missing out on that World First.

The race is far from over, however, as we still don't have a 3rd place finisher. The Asia server guilds were all doing very well before the revelation that all 3 adds had to be taken down before the 50% transition, and we haven't really heard much from them since. However, they have been progressing indeed, with AFK R at 26%, Alpha at 31% and JTH at 38%. But ahead of all of them sit Pieces, who have also been pushing pretty hard and gotten the boss down relatively low, ending the day at a best of 23.6%. If we go by percentages it seems like it's Pieces vs AFK R, and we might see the resolution of that fight and a bronze medalist today.

And in closing, here are some nice words from Limit GM Max, as well as a memento for Method's 12th race win below that.

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Limit always a class act. Max banning people from talking bad about method in his stream.

 

Meanwhile method is trolly and has no sportsmanship. Its members mocking Limit.

I will not watch any more method content.

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On 7/29/2019 at 3:26 PM, Prophet001 said:

Limit always a class act. Max banning people from talking bad about method in his stream.

 

Meanwhile method is trolly and has no sportsmanship. Its members mocking Limit.

I will not watch any more method content.

I know it's cool to hate on the best, but it's getting old and stupid when you pull *filtered* out of your *filtered*. Sure they might fool around at times, but they never hate on Limit or any other guild. Sco adressed this in his stream, were people change from hating Limit to Method and back, depending on who's in lead. Humans...

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20 hours ago, Znifler said:

I know it's cool to hate on the best, but it's getting old and stupid when you pull *filtered* out of your *filtered*. Sure they might fool around at times, but they never hate on Limit or any other guild. Sco adressed this in his stream, were people change from hating Limit to Method and back, depending on who's in lead. Humans...

Nah... I watched for myself during the BoD stream. I personally watched Cayna and Josh spout vitriol and I'll have nothing to do with anything that has the name "method" on it.

You get branded though if that's what you want.

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