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Resto Druid talents Force of Nature and Nature's vigil

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Got back into playing resto from feral. I would like to know if FoN applies aoe heal and same time doing HT on low hP friendlies. At the same time I had been thinking would NV would be applicable to the direct healing of FoN to give some dps, and would that be a higher thorough put in terms of overall heals versus incarnation since the cd of FoN is 30 secs versus 3minutes for Incarnation.

I just don't have the knowledge of theory crafting nor even the smarts to crunch numbers on this. Any input would be appreciated.

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FoN is not great at all for Resto.  Its healing lacks some what (and im not sure if it smart casts HT on other players or just the one you casted it on)

 

SotF is usually ALWAYS better than Inc, but Inc can have its uses in heavy burst situations, while you can line up SotF for small burst situations (which there are plenty of in SoO)

 

As for NV, I personally love having NV, its just a nice little healing boost when you want it and can work well with SotF WG.  Though HotW will give you more overall healing just based on stats alone.

 

I'm progression on heroic Paragons, and I've switched to HotW there because we are CCing adds and I felt like NV was breaking them.

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Resto INC is great for burst healing, but on the other hand, you can also look at it as a mana regen cooldown. If you try and lifebloom as many people as possible while in INC, you will find that you get a substantial amount of clearcasting procs which means a ton of FREE regrowths. With that being said, I agree with Krazy, SotF is 99.999999% the way to roll, unless your preferred content is on farm, and you want to try out some different things for the heck of it.

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Go go gadget +5 Rod of Necromancy!

 

Seriously though...

 

Inc isn't that great for burst healing. It's great for "OH MY GOD ITS ALL HITTING THE FAN BOMB REGROWTH ON EVERYONE OR THEYRE GOING TO DIE" uber triage healing. It's great for when you need a big CD to last through heavy sustained damage. It's great for healing through raid damage while conserving a lot of mana.

 

Problems:

 

You should never be in a position that you're bombing that kind of heals. That's not burst healing. That's not quickly getting out a lot of healing. That's just barely staying a head of an already lost situation.  If you get to the point that you're doing that level of triage healing on a resto druid, you've already wiped. Our 90 talents can also buff our heals for this the same.

 

We also have other long-lasting CDs that can do heavy sustained damage (Tranq/90 talents).

 

Between Lucidity, Clearcasting, and Efflorescence/Wild Mushroom, you should never have mana issues of any kind.

 

SotF provides burst healing through WG. Genesis with Rejuv on several people gives burst. Wild Mushroom: Bloom gives us massive burst healing (in our 10-man, it's about 40% when all of us are in it together). SotF also gives us the highest burst HPS of any healer in the game if we use it with Tranquility. Seriously, nothing's touching that kind of healing.

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