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A Diablo 4 Features Hate/Excitement Ratio from the Reddit Community

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We have a community overview to check out, as redditor kasperja has taken some time to analyze user reaction after the first Diablo 4 2020 quarterly update. We have a hate vs. excitement scale (typo notwithstanding) based on a few polls from the r/diablo community. Now this obviously doesn't represent everyone, but it's still a nice visual and definitely  not that far off from the general consensus, with the most excitement going towards the art style and combat, and most hated being the itemization and talents.

This is pretty good news as the majority of the hated features are still very much in development and definitely aren't even close to final, so this is helpful feedback for Blizzard.

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Source: r/diablo.

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Yay, the most fundamental RPG things are the most hated, yay, we're in for a huge success, lads.

Good thing it's pointed out this early in development, so the blues still have a chance to do things right. Given how many times they have flushed these chances down the drain, it's gonna be fun to watch.

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I feel like they (The devs & the ones telling the devs what to do) should really try to play through D2 a few more times, completely solo, and then come together in a meeting having written down what they liked about it and what they didn't, and then present it. Then modernizing the system so it feels more in line with a game made in 2024.

Also, what is "Februatry"? (Bottom of the screenshot)

 

Sloppy!

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Ill be honest, it is hard taking anything from reddit seriously. It is well known to be the cesspool of the internet only really used by trolls.

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5 hours ago, Undeath said:

Yay, the most fundamental RPG things are the most hated

I'd disagree but I may have a different point of view of what RPG is (roleplaying a character in fictional world) but those most excited features are important for me as well. D2 has crappy endgame but damn strong atmosphere for example. Not saying that itemisation etc isn't important but I wouldn't devalue those other parts.

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Is this data even accurate? Besides, Reddit isn't representative of what players in general want. According to this, talent system is among the most hated features, likely the same people who wanted Diablo 4 to just be a reskin of Diablo 2, similar situation with Diablo 3 (and talent system it has is pretty good, majority didn't have problem with it).

Just like there have been similar examples with WoW, according to it's Reddit Void Elves are a race that "no one wanted", yet they are among the most played ones...

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8 hours ago, Nihilatos said:

Who did this vote, where did they get their information from given we have so little to go on right now?

It says in the description, the same redditor posted a few polls and then made the infographic out of them.

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2 hours ago, Zelendel said:

Ill be honest, it is hard taking anything from reddit seriously. It is well known to be the cesspool of the internet only really used by trolls.

While generally I'd agree, this particular one seems on point as far as the sentiment of the general Diablo community. And while I disagree on a whole lot of these (mainly the hype for the style), I'd say the RPG mechanics DEFINITELY need the most work.

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Well, guys, you are not being constructive here.

We have a sort of factual data to discuss: poll results. Instead you simply dismiss them because of Reddit audience quality which is not a fact, a poor argument, and counterproductive in general. I mean, likewise someone could call icy veins a cesspool of blizz fanboys, which is wrong and doesn't get us anywhere either.

6 hours ago, Kaelos said:

I'd disagree but I may have a different point of view of what RPG is (roleplaying a character in fictional world) but those most excited features are important for me as well. D2 has crappy endgame but damn strong atmosphere for example. Not saying that itemisation etc isn't important but I wouldn't devalue those other parts.

I might have just used incorrect wording here. I meant action hack and slash rpg. I never devalued any other aspects I just said that items, talents, skills, and combat are fundamental to the genre in my opinion. And the fact that combat is the only aspect out of four that is appreciated looks like pretty bad news to me. That's about it.

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5 hours ago, Undeath said:

Well, guys, you are not being constructive here.

We have a sort of factual data to discuss: poll results. Instead you simply dismiss them because of Reddit audience quality which is not a fact, a poor argument, and counterproductive in general. I mean, likewise someone could call icy veins a cesspool of blizz fanboys, which is wrong and doesn't get us anywhere either.

I might have just used incorrect wording here. I meant action hack and slash rpg. I never devalued any other aspects I just said that items, talents, skills, and combat are fundamental to the genre in my opinion. And the fact that combat is the only aspect out of four that is appreciated looks like pretty bad news to me. That's about it.

Well the problem is that it really cant be taken for factual. The trolls of reddit are well known to just randomly vote (normally against the norm) just to throw the results off.

Ok well to be honest, I wouldn't expect anything else to be on ICY but fanboys. I would understand any poll done here would be biased due to the nature of its users.

Now I dont dismiss their finding completely, but I put very little faith in the results. 

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On 3/6/2020 at 5:26 AM, Yridaa said:

I feel like they (The devs & the ones telling the devs what to do) should really try to play through D2 a few more times, completely solo, and then come together in a meeting having written down what they liked about it and what they didn't, and then present it. Then modernizing the system so it feels more in line with a game made in 2024.

Did you actually type this with a straight face? Do you really think that at no point thus far have they evaluated the merits of the existing entries of the series while developing a new, highly anticipated entry? lol

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2 hours ago, darkinchworm said:

Did you actually type this with a straight face? Do you really think that at no point thus far have they evaluated the merits of the existing entries of the series while developing a new, highly anticipated entry? lol

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or being serious. And I think the blame falls on Blizzard for that one. They did present a mobile game in front of a 20 year long dedicated pc fanbase after all.

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